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Old 06-20-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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This I would agree with if the teacher was fired for racism rather than for being unprofessional. Reprimand the student, sure. But I don't think she should be expelled.
Never mind. I misunderstood you. :P
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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The student's original question was actually valid. She had a point. The student WAS completely wrong in accusing the professor of racism however. Again though, the professor wasn't fired over being racist, because it's clear she wasn't. She was fired over being an idiot and attacking a student in a public forum.
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One must name the specific person in order to attack anyone in a public forum. Otherwise it could be anyone they are speaking about. Maybe, just maybe... had the student not attacked the professor by accusing her of being a racist while naming the professor, she wouldn't feel attacked by the defense launched by the professor against an unnamed student.
One is a student who will eventually find out that certain rants don't belong on a public forum. One is a professional who should already know that lesson. Buuuut, if she didn't already know it, she does now.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I think this professor should be given a second chance. Firing her is a little too harsh.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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There is too much ego in this world. There is too much, "It's all about ME, what "I" want, what "I" demand and to hell with any and everyone else!"


Get over yourself and grow some thicker skin.


When I claim systemic racism in policing and the justice system, I back it up with study after study of empirical data, not some isolated incident of me or someone else being butthurt.


I've said my peace... I'm done here.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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Why do you believe firing her is too harsh?




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I think this professor should be given a second chance. Firing her is a little too harsh.
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Do you know why the Daily Mail is reporting it this way? Because the person who contacted them with the story (gee, I wonder who that was....) presented it this way.

You just know the student feels she is responsible for this professor losing her job and is probably gloating about it.

No, dear, you don't have that kind of power. The professor got herself canned.
I eluded to this in an earlier post. Things got out of hand. The best thing to happen would be to have the two meet and talk things out regarding the subject matter and situation (in reverse order).

Now that won't happen.

Both parties made mistakes but the teacher clearly was wrong posting that info on social media.
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I think this professor should be given a second chance. Firing her is a little too harsh.
At first blush it might seem that way, but if you think about it, the professor makes the university look bad with her actions. She lacks common sense, which is a huge liability for an institution that can be sued. And if she felt comfortable enough to do this, I doubt it was the first time she did something like this.

We're only getting part of the story, remember, but even if this was a first offense, she exhibited extreme disregard for the student and the institution for which she works.

Zero common sense = lousy employee.
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I eluded to this in an earlier post. Things got out of hand. The best thing to happen would be to have the two meet and talk things out regarding the subject matter and situation (in reverse order).

Now that won't happen.

Both parties made mistakes but the teacher clearly was wrong posting that info on social media.

Well, gmta!

I think it's clear that both women are ego-driven, but you're right - the student is allowed to be an idiot and the professor doesn't have that luxury.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: My House
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The really creepy part is how this professor planned to ruin the student's future career prospects once she GRADUATED.

That professor was a nut.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Exactly. Another good way to look at this is like an employee-customer relationship (because let's face it, that's all colleges are nowadays, a glorified retail environment for selling knowledge). A customer can get in your face all day screaming at you, but the moment you snap back, you're liable to get fired.
That's a great analogy. Can't lose your cool.

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The really creepy part is how this professor planned to ruin the student's future career prospects once she GRADUATED.

That professor was a nut.
Yeah, who does that? Talk about vindictive.
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