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Old 06-20-2017, 06:03 PM
 
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I'm not joking.

I was finishing the repairs on a Bobcat up at Seattle Center and putting my tools away when a woman came over to me She was about 25 to 30 or possibly younger. She was dressed in rags, baggy sweat pants several T-shirts and a sweater. Her hair was crudely cut and a mess. She asked for a cigarette and when I gave her one I looked at her hands. She was white, her hands were so filthy I could not see her skin color. Her neck was filthy too.
I've never seen anyone as bad off as she appeared to be. I asked her what she was doing there and told her she needed to get some help. She was tweaking and couldn't give me a clear answer. She mumbled any replies. After a few seconds she wandered down the sidewalk sat down in front of a tree and started talking to herself.

WTF?

We aren't doing these people any favors allowing them to destroy themselves. That individual would be a beautiful young woman in any society that was in any way capable of taking care of its people and gave a damn at all. I don't think any decent society would allow this.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You'll see more of this as the progressive pro-drug reformers push for more drugs and fewer drug laws.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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I'm not joking.

I was finishing the repairs on a Bobcat up at Seattle Center and putting my tools away when a woman came over to me She was about 25 to 30 or possibly younger. She was dressed in rags, baggy sweat pants several T-shirts and a sweater. Her hair was crudely cut and a mess. She asked for a cigarette and when I gave her one I looked at her hands. She was white, her hands were so filthy I could not see her skin color. Her neck was filthy too.
I've never seen anyone as bad off as she appeared to be. I asked her what she was doing there and told her she needed to get some help. She was tweaking and couldn't give me a clear answer. She mumbled any replies. After a few seconds she wandered down the sidewalk sat down in front of a tree and started talking to herself.

WTF?

We aren't doing these people any favors allowing them to destroy themselves. That individual would be a beautiful young woman in any society that was in any way capable of taking care of its people and gave a damn at all. I don't think any decent society would allow this.
We store our mentally ill and addicted on the streets.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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You'll see more of this as the progressive pro-drug reformers push for more drugs and fewer drug laws.
I think you're seeing it because it's always been there but now stigmatized and with no treatment plans in place to help the fragile at risk ones on the threshold of going over the cliff. Even back in the horrid days of sanitariums and insane asylums these people were given some help when discovered mumbling to themselves under a tree.

Those weren't the best days, nor was warehousing them the best solution but it sure beats today's ignoring them completely or throwing them into the profit based penal system that doesn't want them either.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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We store our mentally ill and addicted on the streets.
Exactly!
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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I'm not joking.

I was finishing the repairs on a Bobcat up at Seattle Center and putting my tools away when a woman came over to me She was about 25 to 30 or possibly younger. She was dressed in rags, baggy sweat pants several T-shirts and a sweater. Her hair was crudely cut and a mess. She asked for a cigarette and when I gave her one I looked at her hands. She was white, her hands were so filthy I could not see her skin color. Her neck was filthy too.
I've never seen anyone as bad off as she appeared to be. I asked her what she was doing there and told her she needed to get some help. She was tweaking and couldn't give me a clear answer. She mumbled any replies. After a few seconds she wandered down the sidewalk sat down in front of a tree and started talking to herself.

WTF?

We aren't doing these people any favors allowing them to destroy themselves. That individual would be a beautiful young woman in any society that was in any way capable of taking care of its people and gave a damn at all. I don't think any decent society would allow this.
You weren't in a decent society. Remember you said it was Seattle. Land of liberal zombies. Why didn't you take her home and clean her up and support her. No need to make it someone else's problem when you are the solution.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Seattle/Dahlonega
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See it every single day. You get used to it. The city actually caters to it.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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I'm not joking.

I was finishing the repairs on a Bobcat up at Seattle Center and putting my tools away when a woman came over to me She was about 25 to 30 or possibly younger. She was dressed in rags, baggy sweat pants several T-shirts and a sweater. Her hair was crudely cut and a mess. She asked for a cigarette and when I gave her one I looked at her hands. She was white, her hands were so filthy I could not see her skin color. Her neck was filthy too.
I've never seen anyone as bad off as she appeared to be. I asked her what she was doing there and told her she needed to get some help. She was tweaking and couldn't give me a clear answer. She mumbled any replies. After a few seconds she wandered down the sidewalk sat down in front of a tree and started talking to herself.

WTF?

We aren't doing these people any favors allowing them to destroy themselves. That individual would be a beautiful young woman in any society that was in any way capable of taking care of its people and gave a damn at all. I don't think any decent society would allow this.
In a free society, people make choices. Sometimes bad ones. Sometimes good ones. Often a bit of both.
I would not want to live in a 'nanny state' society. So I accept that some people will destroy themselves...Just as I accept that some people will rise up and becomes someone special..someone who might change all of our lives.

I also believe in second chances.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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I'm not joking.

I was finishing the repairs on a Bobcat up at Seattle Center and putting my tools away when a woman came over to me She was about 25 to 30 or possibly younger. She was dressed in rags, baggy sweat pants several T-shirts and a sweater. Her hair was crudely cut and a mess. She asked for a cigarette and when I gave her one I looked at her hands. She was white, her hands were so filthy I could not see her skin color. Her neck was filthy too.
I've never seen anyone as bad off as she appeared to be. I asked her what she was doing there and told her she needed to get some help. She was tweaking and couldn't give me a clear answer. She mumbled any replies. After a few seconds she wandered down the sidewalk sat down in front of a tree and started talking to herself.

WTF?

We aren't doing these people any favors allowing them to destroy themselves. That individual would be a beautiful young woman in any society that was in any way capable of taking care of its people and gave a damn at all. I don't think any decent society would allow this.
She might have been mentally ill, not a drug user.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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She might have been mentally ill, not a drug user.
They're not mutually exclusive.

Many people with mental problems can't stand being in a facility, so they stay on the street and self-medicate.
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