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Do you honestly think the professor's words will cause any first responders to not respond?
Again, you are yet another person complaining because you "don't like" what the professor said when his words did not encroach upon either the natural rights nor property of another. You just "don't like" what he said in a forum away from his teaching. Not a single instance of him making such comments in class has come forward, even though we all know they would IF he made such statement in class. Furthermore, since you "don't like" what he said, you want him punished by being fired. Exactly how is that supporting free speech? Oh wait... I was right when I said people calling for the professor to be fired only support free speech if they first approve of that free speech. If it contains content they "don't like", they oppose free speech.
You're proving my point.
Ok let's play this game... say you have a Kindergarten teacher preaching hatred to your kids. Based on your posts it's free speech and parents should just suck it up and not complain. They don't have a right to ask for this teacher to be fired. Yes that teacher and this profession can preach their crap OUTSIDE of their job. Go stand on that street corner and spew hatred yes it's free speech. BUT not in your job! Especially a job molding young minds. The University has a right to fire and we have free speech to demand they be fired, rightly so.
Others have been trying to point this out to you but you are failing to see the distinction.
Ok let's play this game... say you have a Kindergarten teacher preaching hatred to your kids. Based on your posts it's free speech and parents should just suck it up and not complain. They don't have a right to ask for this teacher to be fired. Yes that teacher and this profession can preach their crap OUTSIDE of their job. Go stand on that street corner and spew hatred yes it's free speech. BUT not in your job! Especially a job molding young minds. The University has a right to fire and we have free speech to demand they be fired, rightly so.
Others have been trying to point this out to you but you are failing to see the distinction.
People are fired every day for posting vile things on social media. It's the company's right to do so.
There's a common theme when it comes to certain people defending certain things - and I don't mean free speech. Just look for it and you'll figure it out.
What drama queendom we have going on here. So many CAPITAL LETTERS and exclamation points!!!!!!
It is the right of any company or organization to terminate relationships with those they employ.
When someone blathers on social media thoughts that are generally limited to the mentally deranged, it's bad for business and the brand.
Anyone who wants an entire organization to fall on its sword for someone who appears so *off* in the guise of 'free speech' doesn't know a thing about simple economics.
This post is full of absolute nonsense!
Had the founding fathers of this great nation had social media, their words would have been, and were by many, considered the blathering of mentally deranged men. They didn't have our time's social media so they used the social media they had at the time including printed or handwritten handbills, newspapers and political gatherings, even gatherings at church to espouse their beliefs. Many wanted nothing to do with what these men were saying. They were afraid the British would kill them, and they were right to believe this. Only 10% to 15% of the population in the country at the time participated in the revolutionary war even though all of them benefited.
The founding fathers' words were considered radical, a THREAT to those who would do them harm. How is this ANY different than the words this professor spewed? Was he not suggesting that the very people who would harm him and other black people (white people in power) should be fought against and first responders should deny to help them? Do you think the founding fathers of this nation used similar words about their oppressors? How is this any different?
You people need to quit acting like snowflakes every time someone like this professor makes some comments you "don't like". I don't oppress back people so I'm not worried. I stand up for and champion their natural rights, the very same natural rights I demand for myself. I don't call places demanding someone be fired because they vented with words I "don't like". If someone's words bother me that much, especially online or on platforms like this one, I don't read or watch them or their words. In the case of here, I add them to my list of people I don't want to hear from any more.
You were on this list until recently. You just made that list again. Buh bye!
The thing that's great about free speech is a person is free to spew those words. No one has to listen. They shouldn't interfere with the words, and by placing someone on /ignore or by blocking that person, they haven't interfered with that person's speech. They've merely stopped listening.
Had the founding fathers of this great nation had social media, their words would have been, and were by many, considered the blathering of mentally deranged men. They didn't have our time's social media so they used the social media they had at the time including printed or handwritten handbills, newspapers and political gatherings, even gatherings at church to espouse their beliefs. Many wanted nothing to do with what these men were saying. They were afraid the British would kill them, and they were right to believe this. Only 10% to 15% of the population in the country at the time participated in the revolutionary war even though all of them benefited.
The founding fathers' words were considered radical, a THREAT to those who would do them harm. How is this ANY different than the words this professor spewed? Was he not suggesting that the very people who would harm him and other black people (white people in power) should be fought against and first responders should deny to help them? Do you think the founding fathers of this nation used similar words about their oppressors? How is this any different?
You people need to quit acting like snowflakes every time someone like this professor makes some comments you "don't like". I don't oppress back people so I'm not worried. I stand up for and champion their natural rights, the very same natural rights I demand for myself. I don't call places demanding someone be fired because they vented with words I "don't like". If someone's words bother me that much, especially online or on platforms like this one, I don't read or watch them or their words. In the case of here, I add them to my list of people I don't want to hear from any more.
You were on this list until recently. You just made that list again. Buh bye!
The thing that's great about free speech is a person is free to spew those words. No one has to listen. They shouldn't interfere with the words, and by placing someone on /ignore or by blocking that person, they haven't interfered with that person's speech. They've merely stopped listening.
It's quite simple really... off the job fine, on the job pay the consequences and you could get fired. What can't you understand about that?!? You think you can spew hatred or just go off at someone at your work and not get fired? Yeah you can do but you'd be an idiot.
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Reason: phrasing
Ok let's play this game... say you have a Kindergarten teacher preaching hatred to your kids. Based on your posts it's free speech and parents should just suck it up and not complain. They don't have a right to ask for this teacher to be fired. Yes that teacher and this profession can preach their crap OUTSIDE of their job. Go stand on that street corner and spew hatred yes it's free speech. BUT not in your job! Especially a job molding young minds. The University has a right to fire and we have free speech to demand they be fired, rightly so.
Others have been trying to point this out to you but you are failing to see the distinction.
1. He is NOT teaching kindergarten aged children.
2. His prose was written on a medium that was not expected to be viewed by either faculty or students. His facebook rants weren't nearly as bad as the actual written prose.
3. Had this professor been saying these things in class, you can bet your ass someone would have recorded it by now and exposed him. This was done away from his class.
I sincerely believe you want nothing to do with ALLOWING other's free speech IF it is speech that you "don't like". I believe you would take the time to call or email this college, demanding this man be fired simply because you "don't like" his words, his beliefs, his thoughts and his speech. I sincerely believe people who act like you, the political correctness police, the PC police fighting unacceptable speech... the PC police fighting unacceptable beliefs and thoughts, then attempting to cause those who have these beliefs or thoughts, much less dare to communicate them, to be fired or jailed, are people who are anti-freedom, anti-Liberty and certainly anti-free speech.
I have no use for that kind of person. Welcome to my special person list. Buh bye!
Last edited by CaseyB; 06-24-2017 at 03:30 PM..
Reason: personal attack
It's quite simple really... off the job fine, on the job pay the consequences and you could get fired. What can't you understand about that?!? You think you can spew hatred or just go off at someone at your work and not get fired? Yeah you can do but you'd be an idiot.
You're tolerance is quite refreshing. I'm glad I hadn't refreshed the original page so I could see this little jewel. Buh bye!!!
I love screen capturing people's words of intolerance, especially as they chastise another for their words of intolerance. The word hypocrisy comes to mind.
Is this NOT the EXACT same thing the right complains about the left on when the left is using political correctness to shut down other people's beliefs, their thoughts and their expressed words?
I couldn't have made this up if I tried.
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White college lecturers are espousing anti-white hate speech, too.
'Maybe in the US, where young, white, rich, clueless white males routinely get away with raping women. Not so much in North Korea. And of course, it's Otto's parents who will pay the price for the rest of their lives,' she continued.
White college lecturers are espousing anti-white hate speech, too.
'Maybe in the US, where young, white, rich, clueless white males routinely get away with raping women. Not so much in North Korea. And of course, it's Otto's parents who will pay the price for the rest of their lives,' she continued.
Self-loathing idiots who think they have to hate themselves and their race to prove they're sympathetic to the plight of others. They honestly feel superior to people who disagree.
Yes, we have free speech. But anyone over the age of eight or nine knows there are consequences for one's behavior and actions.
I don't understand why some find it so hard to understand that free speech doesn't mean free from consequences.
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