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Old 06-23-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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I am sure that every statement Oliver made in that bit was triple fact-checked. (You can watch it here -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw6RsUhw1Q8)

Oliver purposefully dangled the bait, and Murray bit.

Stay tuned for the next episode.
Oliver is spot on, as always. You can't sue someone for telling the truth, and I challenge anyone who actually watched this clip in its entirety to point out where he lied. Oliver is a gem. We need more like him who do in depth pieces that expose POS' like Murray and Trump. Very well done!
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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Oliver is spot on, as always. You can't sue someone for telling the truth,.
The company argues that Murray did not tell the truth. And you can sue for that.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Your argument is a logical fallacy. Of course I don't believe that. Furthermore what I believe is also irrelevant. That's simply another ad hominem fallacy.
Nope. Just pointing out that when it comes to facts, Murray does not have the market cornered.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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The company argues that Murray did not tell the truth. And you can sue for that.
So you admit that Murray is not telling the truth???? Why then do you think that Oliver will lose if the case goes to court???
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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So you admit that Murray is not telling the truth???? Why then do you think that Oliver will lose if the case goes to court???
I did not say Murray was telling the Truth

I did not say that Murray was not telling the Truth

I did not say Oliver would win the case.

I did not say that Oliver would lose the case.

Please go back and read what I did say and respond to that.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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That's why he is suing isn't it? So why is the left upset? If he did nothing wrong, why are they upset about it... seems to me, they are going to settle which pretty much means Oliver did slander him...
I think Oliver will appreciate the fact that he is being sued. The threat of suit resulted in Murray playing a major role in last weeks segment. Based on how Oliver has handled such suits and threats in the past I imagine Murray will be playing a prominent role in future segments.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:03 AM
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Sounds like you are just making argument.

This lawsuit does not appear to be frivolous. HBO refused to address or correct things they said, after Murray Energy sent in their side of the story.
HBO is under no obligation to tell Murray's side of the story, although it's not even true that they didn't. He specifically brought up the earthquake claim and dismissed it, as he should, because it's absurd nonsense that isn't supported by any evidence. Meanwhile the explanation that the collapse caused the earthquake is supported by actual evidence.

The lawsuit is absolutely frivolous. They're, of course, free to sue because Oliver hurt his feelings and didn't go into a detailed defense of their ridiculous earthquake claim, but here's the thing, Oliver doesn't have to be nice and he doesn't have to act as a mouthpiece spouting BS for a coal company.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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I think Oliver will appreciate the fact that he is being sued. The threat of suit resulted in Murray playing a major role in last weeks segment. Based on how Oliver has handled such suits and threats in the past I imagine Murray will be playing a prominent role in future segments.
I'm betting that HBO's lawyers have told Oliver to keep his mouth shut until this gets resolved.

Edit: corrected type where I mistaking said Murray instead of Oliver.

Last edited by WaldoKitty; 06-23-2017 at 09:18 AM.. Reason: Edit: corrected type where I mistaking said Murray instead of Oliver.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:07 AM
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Unlike JasonF, I am a little upset. Rich people having their lawyers send cease-and-desist letters to keep others from speaking freely is a distressing trend. An attitude of "My $500/hr lawyer can scare you from saying what you want to say" is harmful to open debate. A small newspaper or worse, a private citizen, can't compete with that. It's to the the point where several states have legislated to keep it from happening - "SLAPP statutes".
True. What is merely entertaining when done to a company like HBO and someone with Oliver's stature is most definitely not entertaining when it's use against organizations and people with fewer resources as an effective tactic to suppress criticism.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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This is a copy of the lawsuit....

Read it yourself.

https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress...defamation.pdf


After looking through it.. yeah.... It's not frivolous at all.
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