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Old 06-27-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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The seriousness of Islam in that it makes man believe in lying
And makes falsehood is right and right is void
for example
They say the Prophet of Mercy
That's right
But the prophet of mercy slaughtered 500 Jews in one day
Here it is who killed 500 Jews in one day the prophet of mercy
Prophet of Mercy
He married his son's wife in adoption
Here is a void
So this is the problem of Islam with the world
Also, adultery is haraam
But the marriage of pleasure is not haraam
What is the difference between marriage between pleasure and adultery?
In all this, Christian fundamentalism does not know these moral problems
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Biggest difference between Rel.Right and Islam.Fund ? = Religious Right (Christianity) acknowledges that LYING is always WRONG (no matter the circumstances) as instructed by the One True God the Father ; Islamic Fundamentalists (AND the militant LIberal LEFT) BELIEVE Lying IS justified IF it 'furthers the spread' and effect of their ideology - as would be expected from those who have thrown in with their father of all lies, (who teaches 'lying is ok').

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Old 06-27-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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One is a crazy religion that demands mindless worship and allows for very little freedom and the other is a
crazy religion that demands mindless worship and allows for very little freedom.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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I gave the influence of ideology to follow
And how the brain is washed
Murder is a criminal act, a crime
Past, present and future
If the person commits the murder, you will say that he was killed

But if the Prophet committed this crime, you would not say about him a murderer and he is a criminal but you say that he is the prophet of mercy
This is called double standards of morality and distortion of human conscience
In the same way with the marriage of the wife of the son in adoption and this talk is fixed in the words of God

And you can not deny it
If you do this, what you will say about him is not a moral offense
But with the Prophet is one of the best deeds

The double standard is at the heart of Islamic ideology and this is not in Christian ideology, even in the fundamentalist side, as you say
Did you know that Christ had the right to marry his cousins, slaves and others?
But God gave to the Prophet of Mercy the right to marry and the marriage of slaves and his cousins and Amara herself to the Prophet
There is a difference between the personality of Christ even in her dark side and the personality of the founder of Islam

From the study of this difference we can learn the basis of each ideology to follow that ideology
The followers of Islamic ideology are suffering from great psychological illnesses
God granted him the right to four wives
But he can not marry four because he can not provide food for them
That is why he remains dreaming of paradise until he gets four nymphs at one time
Do you find such a personal schism in any Christian fundamentalist and even a Christian criminal

Christian fundamentalism creates a healthy human being
Islamic ideology, however, is the embodiment of an intellectually and mentally ill man
He suffers from the immediacy of standards in his mind and in his view of his prophet, his image. The Muslim suffers a bitter struggle to justify this. When he can not justify it, he uses the method of intellectual terrorism to prevent us from speaking in these sensitive points of Islamic ideology
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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As far as I am concerned they are one and the same. They just call their God something different. Posters on this forum are always screaming about how Muslims want to impose Sharia law on us, but what about all the Talibangelicals who are always trying to impose their fundamentalist brand of Christianity on us? Posters are always babbling about how the Koran says this or that ... but what about the Christian fundamentalists like Ted Cruz who think that the Bible should dictate government policy?


Goldwater was right. The American Right has been hijacked by Christian fundamentalists.
Why don't you move to Syria, and you can experience the difference first hand!
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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From the outside looking in, I'd say the difference is about 200 years + an enlightenment period.

Basically western religions are more secularized, while middle eastern religions are closer to what you would have seen a few hundred years ago in the same areas. Where as if you went back say 400 years or so and looked at the Christianity of the day then, it would bear very little resemblance to what you see today. Even the most fundamentalist western Christians know to overlook the lines in the bible calling on them to execute witches etc... so I guess another difference would be western Christian fundamentalists say they believe in following the bible to the letter but actually don't, because they would not be able to exist in modern society if they did, and middle eastern Islamic fundamentalists say they believe in following the Koran to the letter and they actually try to do it, which is what causes a lot the problems plaguing their regressive theocracies.

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Old 06-27-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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There are extremist Christian fundamentalists and just Christian fundamentalists just as there are extremist Islamic fundamentalists and just Islamic fundamentalists. The extremist groups are likely to be the ones bombing and shooting up abortion clinics and blowing themselves up at rock concerts or subways. They are both terrorists as are the home-grown right-wing neo Nazi and white supremacist militia/KKK perpetrators. Christian terrorists tend not to blow themselves up. That might be the only difference.
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Old 06-27-2017, 01:34 PM
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There are extremist Christian fundamentalists and just Christian fundamentalists just as there are extremist Islamic fundamentalists and just Islamic fundamentalists. The extremist groups are likely to be the ones bombing and shooting up abortion clinics and blowing themselves up at rock concerts or subways. They are both terrorists as are the home-grown right-wing neo Nazi and white supremacist militia/KKK perpetrators. Christian terrorists tend not to blow themselves up. That might be the only difference.
When was the last time:
  • Christian extremist flew airplanes into buildings
  • Beheaded people that aren't Muslim
  • Children were slaughtered by Christian extremist
  • etc


You're one of the lefty loons that use a few small incidents with "christian" extremist to more or less state they are the same level of evil as the Muslim extremist killing people all over the planet on a daily base.
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Old 06-27-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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When was the last time:
  • Christian extremist flew airplanes into buildings
  • Beheaded people that aren't Muslim
  • Children were slaughtered by Christian extremist
  • etc


You're one of the lefty loons that use a few small incidents with "christian" extremist to more or less state they are the same level of evil as the Muslim extremist killing people all over the planet on a daily base.
I mean the first one was a one of a kind event that would be very difficult to duplicate.

The second one you included "that aren't Muslim" so I am assuming in your cursory google you found an example of a Christian beheading a Muslim at some point, otherwise why the qualifier?

Children are killed in many Christian African nations to this day for accusations of witchcraft and such, there have been fairly recent news items about this. Also death penalty for gays etc...

Christianity's hands are not clean by any measure they just currently benefit from not being the squeakiest wheel on the cart/loudest a$$hole in the room.
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Old 06-27-2017, 01:45 PM
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I mean the first one was a one of a kind event that would be very difficult to duplicate.

The second one you included "that aren't Muslim" so I am assuming in your cursory google you found an example of a Christian beheading a Muslim at some point, otherwise why the qualifier?

Children are killed in many Christian African nations to this day for accusations of witchcraft and such, there have been fairly recent news items about this. Also death penalty for gays etc...

Christianity's hands are not clean by any measure they just currently benefit from not being the squeakiest wheel on the cart/loudest a$$hole in the room.
Death penalty for gays? Oh wait, you'll probably dig up an obscure African nation. How about how gays or women or treated all over the Middle East?

So you seriously don't think fanatic muslims are a much bigger problem than fanatic Christians?

Let me ask you another way: have you followed with is happening in Europe almost every week? Does Manchester ring a bell where a muslim blew-up a bunch of teenage and younger children for the sake of religion?

But suuuureee... They're both a problem. Let's be PC.
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Old 06-27-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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Death penalty for gays? Oh wait, you'll probably dig up an obscure African nation. How about how gays or women or treated all over the Middle East?

So you seriously don't think fanatic muslims are a much bigger problem than fanatic Christians?
Maybe you should go read what I said again, because you appear to be assuming I believe things I don't so I can fit your pre-concieved mental straw man. I suppose that saves you the effort of having to actually think but it does not make for a very engaging discussion.

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Let me ask you another way: have you followed with is happening in Europe almost every week? Does Manchester ring a bell where a muslim blew-up a bunch of teenage and younger children for the sake of religion?

But suuuureee... They're both a problem. Let's be PC.
Just because the extremists of one religion are in general worse does not automatically make every other religion unimpeachable. And comparing regressive Christian beliefs in 3rd world African s**tholes to regressive Islamic beliefs in 3rd world Islamic s**tholes is perfectly valid.

The underlying idea that somehow having "faith" trumps having "knowledge" is what enables the extremists to florish in any religion.

Muslims nor Christians in general in 1st world countries are the problem, they all know that they have to ditch the more unsavory parts of their holy books in order to mesh with society - they will try to rationalize reasons why it is "ok" to do so from their religious perspective, but they know it is necessary.

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