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Old 06-26-2017, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Johnson becomes fourth GOP senator unwilling to proceed on healthcare bill | TheHill
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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Thank goodness. Why would any republican want to vote for this piece of garbage is beyond me.

But why wouldn't any democrats support this? They love garbage like this!
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Looks like it will be defeated.

Obamacare will remain the law of the land. I personally, do not know a single person who's healthcare premium has gone down, or anyone who was able to buy healthcare as the result of Obamacare.

I do know a 24 year old on his parent's policy, but insurance for 24 year olds has never been a problem.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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Default 5 Republican Senators Now Say They Will Vote No On Procedural Vote To Bring Obamacare Replacment To The Floor For a Vote

Mitch McConnell can only afford to lose 2 R Senators to even bring the bill to the floor.

5 are now on record as Nay votes on the preliminary procedural vote.

1. Susan Collins (R-Maine)
2. Dean Heller (R-Nevada)
3. Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin)
4. Mike Lee (R-Utah)
5. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky)

Leslie Graham was quoted as saying that the bill would either get 50 votes and pass, or 35 votes and lose. Unless Mitch can pull a rabbit out of his hat, 35 is more likely than 50. There's a group of R s Senators in competitive states reluctant to put their political necks on the chopping block for a bill that seems destined to fail anyway.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-senator...154039294.html
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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In the case of Paul, he is consistent defender of human freedom, so he will never go for a centralized racketeering and slavery scam. Even the ones pushed for by Republicans acting like Democrats. He is not a collectivist.
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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Ohhh no, it's over.

I believe the press, no matter how much they've been proven to be liars and cheats. Don't you?

It's over for those who don't vote to repeal Obamacare.
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Ohhh no, it's over.

I believe the press, no matter how much they've been proven to be liars and cheats. Don't you?

It's over for those who don't vote to repeal Obamacare.
Changing Obamacare to Republican Care is still a centralized collectivist nightmare. No one who believes in human freedom would support either.
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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In the case of Paul, he is consistent defender of human freedom, so he will never go for a centralized racketeering and slavery scam. Even the ones pushed for by Republicans acting like Democrats. He is not a collectivist.
More like, in the case of Paul, he is a Randian fanboy a$$, but he principled.

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Changing Obamacare to Republican Care is still a centralized collectivist nightmare. No one who believes in human freedom would support either.
And I assume that you have the same feelings about interstate highways, bridges, the military, fire departments, and basically everything that keeps the western world running? And you are opting out of Medicare aren't you?
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Changing Obamacare to Republican Care is still a centralized collectivist nightmare. No one who believes in human freedom would support either.
I believe in not having co-pays or deductibles. They defeat the point of shelling out for premiums
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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More like, in the case of Paul, he is a Randian fanboy a$$, but he principled.


And I assume that you have the same feelings about interstate highways, bridges, the military, fire departments, and basically everything that keeps the western world running? And you are opting out of Medicare aren't you?


I do so love the "anti-collectivist" mouthbreathers who hate "socialism" without understanding what it really is...who won't opt our of Medicare or Soc Security or police and fire services or roads, etc...because they "earned it".....I also love how they fail to realize their heroes like Le Pen whom they love so much make Bernie Sanders look like the Koch brothers.....they are also the ones who tend to think smashing unions, polluting the environment, supply side economics, driving huge trucks and suv's, and tax breaks for the rich are what makes America great
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