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Old 07-05-2017, 03:53 PM
 
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You don't have to go into business though.
Everyone essentially has a business. Should the government be able to dictate where you work?

You are trading your labor for money when you are employed just as the baker trades his labor for money.

I'm surprised how many people want to give government that much power. It's kind of scary.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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Some folks are being disingenuous period. After all, reasonable folks recognize backlash when they see or experience it. It's been two years since ...



Gay Marriage in the United States, One Year Later
The landmark Supreme Court ruling led to a surge of same-sex marriages—and plenty of backlash.

& then there are, of course, the libertarian lapdogs, they're kept on a short leash & do & say whatever their libertarian owners order.
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I support gay marriage.
& bully for you!

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I just don't support the government punishing inaction. Nobody should be forced to make a cake.
That's what they said about Jim Crow laws.

Sections of Justice John Marshall Harlan's dissent here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plessy_v._Ferguson

& before that:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

Disenfranchisement is still disenfranchisement no matter how finely disguised.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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This case had been rejected in the past. What's different now? (Gorsuch) I hear he is a big religious freedom person. Looks like the beginning of the end of some civil rights...this is what the American Public wants....go figure.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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Disenfranchisement is still disenfranchisement no matter how finely disguised.
No disenfranchisement in this situation, exists.
A private citizen has never had the right and rarely the ability to deprive someone of thier rights in this country.

Although, no citizen has the right to another's property, labor, or agreement. So perhaps the store owner IS being disenfranchised, here.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:34 PM
 
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SC understands why they are hearing this case. SC decides. What else matters? We are a nation of laws.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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SC understands why they are hearing this case. SC decides. What else matters? We are a nation of laws.
We sure are. "My silent invisible God says I should hate gays, and God's rights trump theirs." What a load of BS.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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No it is about "artistic vision" vversus harm this time rather than religious freedom versus harm. How people can't see that denying customers based on illegal discriminatory reasons is illegal. Civil Rights Act of 1963 people.
HA! Tell that to the thousands of strip clubs that won't allow single women into their joints without a male escort. I've even seen actual lesbians turned away until she talked some man that is parking to escort her inside. If the strip clubs can discriminate because they think the single women might be prostitutes, then a baker can choose to exercise his 1st and 4th amendments by refusing to do a cake for something that he is against.

However, if this holds up in case, then damn, I'm going to find me a lesbian lawyer and have a nice payday suing all of the Gentleman Establishments around here.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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& bully for you!



That's what they said about Jim Crow laws.

Sections of Justice John Marshall Harlan's dissent here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plessy_v._Ferguson

& before that:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

Disenfranchisement is still disenfranchisement no matter how finely disguised.
Jim Crow laws were restrictions placed on citizens to prevent them from doing something.

They were the exact opposite of what is happening here.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:57 PM
 
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We sure are. "My silent invisible God says I should hate gays, and God's rights trump theirs." What a load of BS.
Yeah, it is a load of BS believing that is what any significant number of Christians believe.
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Old 07-06-2017, 05:15 AM
 
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Jim Crow laws were restrictions placed on citizens to prevent them from doing something.
State laws placed restrictions on Americans citizens preventing them from marrying. The Supreme Court ruled that the US Constitution allows for same-sex couples to marry. This ruling effectively overturned the State restrictions that were in place. Prior to this ruling, 37 US States & DC had removed marriage restrictions.

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They were the exact opposite of what is happening here.
How so?

The scenarios are similar in that some folks are resistant or are outright in opposition to civil rights for all American citizens. & petitioned or are currently petitioning Government to sanctify. Backlash.
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