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A wedding cake? An abortion for the sake of convenience?
The answer: Neither.
You need to educate yourself on the topics in which you want to participate in.
So in your opinion there is no reason what so ever ....for an abortion,be it rape,incest ,health of the Mother or even a still fetus..........no reason,at all?Yet YOUcompare all that to a wedding cake???It's ignorant.
As someone who lived through this experience this really, really chafes my hide. First, there was no moving on to another place. Often we were shut out of the only restaurant in town, all bathrooms and/or water fountains, and of course, hotels. Second, no one is threatening their lives for just crossing the threadhold of the establishment. Third, they could purchase any other item in the establishment, the owner just refused to create a particular item. Aggravating, I know, but it's not like being spit on or having some Neanderthal try to arrest you. Fourth, it wasn't involving something a that was a necessity. No one "needs" a wedding cake, they want them. Fifth, the only reason the baker knew it was for a SSM is because they told him, if they really, really, really wanted that cake they could be sneaky and have it. My skin tone announces to everyone, far and near, my race.
Do not compare someone not getting a wedding cake made by one particular person to being unable to use an indoor toilet in a 50-mile radius for fear of bodily harm. Don't.
Absolutely, so sorry, but I'm walking a difficult line here...
I in no way wanted to suggest that "simply moving on" was simple in any case of discrimination, and I am very sorry if that was your take-away. Also of course, the whole challenge for blacks back then as compared to gays today may be very different in many challenging respects as you well describe, but I'm not sure the level of challenge is the issue here. Being discriminated against, for whatever reasons, is the problem or challenge that is my focus. Perhaps there is a better way to argue that the "simply move on" argument doesn't work, whether one can simply move on down the street or not.
Oh, I get it. I could have screamed and cried "discrimination!" and would have more of a case than the ssm Colorado couple. Why? Because National Origin is a Federally Protected Class, and LGBT isn't.
There's no reason the couple in question couldn't have ordered from a different bakery, and eventually, they did.
So, again... take your "deep-seeded prejudice, bigotry and intolerance of others" and stop using that to try to bully others into giving up their Constitutional Rights.
Again, you are badly missing the point of distinction I am trying to make clear to you, having NOTHING to do with whether LGBT is a Federally Protected Class! Blacks were not a Federally Protected Class back when they were discriminated against, before they BECAME a Protected Class. Right? And guess why they became a protected class?
Not to suggest discrimination, racism, isn't still alive and well in this country by the way, despite federal law!
Many people still today discriminate against blacks EVEN THOUGH they are a protected class. The protected class distinction does not determine whether the wrong of discrimination is occurring or not, but at this rate, I suspect the LGBT community will soon also become a protected class. Need we wait until then, like in the case of women, blacks, minorities..., to recognize the wrong of such discrimination?
As already pointed out, the "simple go somewhere else" solution you hold so dear is no solution at all! Not for folks who don't think discrimination is an okay thing!
So let's ask God if he really hates gays, shall we? That is the crux of the issue: whether God hates gays or whatever group of people that the human coincidentally also hates. The person is using God as the scapegoat because he isn't around to deny it. So let's ask him. Ah, but there's the rub. We can't. Therefore there are laws to protect us from bigoted people and the gods they claim to worship.
You forget we can always turn to what is written, in the holy books. God hates when you forget that...
No, you make Race, National Origin, Age, etc. A Federally Protected Class. LGBT hasn't done that. So, due to the Constitution's Supremacy Clause, the First Amendment prevails.
I hope you realize that Religion actually IS a Federally Protected Class, and you and many others are showing extreme bigotry.
I know the best defense is a good offense, but this is ridiculous...
Who am I prejudiced against? Bigoted toward?
As already explained in more ways than I can think to count...
You still haven't pointed out how my way, as the non-discriminating baker, is in any way infringing on religious freedom for anyone. As compared to someone who in any way treats someone else in an insulting manner because they are simply a different color, dress, religion sex or sexual persuasion. Can't do that, can you?
No wonder we as a people make such slow progress in these respects.
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