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Old 06-29-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Here is my favorite part of Trump's edict regarding the definition of close family.

Notice how the definition of "close family" mirrors Trump's family, so that it would include all of the children by different wives, half-siblings, step-children and their spouses, but one's own grandparents, aunts or uncles aren't included?

I think this odd definition of close family will definitely be brought into question. As usual Trump policy is totally self-centered.

"...According to a diplomatic cable obtained by The New York Times, “close family” is “defined as a parent (including parent-in-law), spouse, child, adult son or daughter, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, sibling, whether whole or half. This includes step relationships.”

But it went on to state that “close family” does not include “grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, brothers-in-laws and sisters-in-law, fiancés and any other ‘extended’ family members.”
I noticed that as well. "Close family are families just like my own. Everyone else can go pound sand."
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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No worry for these muslims- Merkel has the red carpet rolled out for them!
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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So is he actually going to start working on improving the vetting procedures? I mean that was supposed to have been done within 90 days from the last implementation of the ban, right?

Why isn't it done yet, if the priority is to keep the US safe?
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Actually Yemen. One of the included countries. I take note you left that out.

Furthermore this is 2017 not 2001. Things have changed in all those countries.

Saudi Arabia does still not practice one of the most western hating, radical forms of Islam?

Your evidence would be?
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:01 AM
 
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So is he actually going to start working on improving the vetting procedures? I mean that was supposed to have been done within 90 days from the last implementation of the ban, right?

Why isn't it done yet, if the priority is to keep the US safe?
He's too busy insulting the hosts of Morning Joe on twitter, and holding illegal fundraisers for 2020 to be bothered with things like extreme vetting.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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How do you know there are now terrorist groups in Saudia Arabia?

Do you make this assumption because it's a Muslim country?
Good point! Caught them in their own stereotyping they accuse some of us here.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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So you don't know. You simply state it as disingenuous argument against Trump.
No there is no logic in your statement. Because I don't know for sure where the next terrorist is coming from doesn't logically result with me having a disingenuous argument against Trump.

I don't have an argument against Trump with this ban.

I have concerns that the focus is lost, that the focus is no longer about the security but it is now about 'winning'. I'm more concerned with effectiveness of policies implemented with the goal to secure our borders. i am hoping the review of immigration policies is done in a timely manner and the results revealed.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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Good point! Caught them in their own stereotyping they accuse some of us here.
Easy to do. It's nonsense argument after nonsense argument.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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Because I don't know for sure where the next terrorist is coming from ...
Exactly. You don't know. Glad you admit it.

The people working for Trump do know. That is why they picked the 6 countries in question.

Good that we have straightened that out.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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Good point! Caught them in their own stereotyping they accuse some of us here.
No it's not a good point at all.

If you have at all read this thread you will see that my concern is more about historically where the terrorists who have done the most damage on USA soil have lived...not so much what religion they practice.
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