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Exactly. Business owners will hire exactly the number they need and justify ROI. He will not hire a second dish washer if his place doesnt need one, even if pay goes from $10 to $5.
well said, I've tried to make that point a dozen times on these threads and it usually falls on deaf ears.
$17.50/hr (of its for 40 he's/week) still is poverty wages here, that would be $35k/yr, which would be about $27k/yr take home, leaving you only $2,250/month net pay. You would spend 40% of that in rent on the median one bedroom apartment.
Then live someplace where your dollar goes farther.
Then live someplace where your dollar goes farther.
Not that easy. Sometimes the free babysitter is grandma who aint going anywhere.
Moving is not cheap.
That being said, if you are a dish washer in a cheap place, for heavens sake dont MOVE TO a place like NYC. I see a lot of stories about Carl Clueless moving straight to NYC after graduating college and making 35K a year to start.
When I talk about the "rest of the world" , I'm talking about the realities of the working world in America...., not Europe etc.
Everyone else, apart from government workers and union members have to get ahead in life on their own merit and their own hard work.
Why should someone who makes minimum wage get an arbitrary raise, whether they deserve it or not, when someone who worked his way up from minimum wage and makes maybe $16.00 an hour after years of putting his time and effort not only gets diddly squat but actually gets a pay cut in his buying power?
As usual, the Progressives trying to make life "fair" for some people necessitates screwing someone else.
Because taxpayers subsidize walmart et al profits via food stamps, fuel assistance, etc. otherwise no one could work there and crime rates would skyrocket.
$17.50/hr (of its for 40 he's/week) still is poverty wages here, that would be $35k/yr, which would be about $27k/yr take home, leaving you only $2,250/month net pay. You would spend 40% of that in rent on the median one bedroom apartment.
Sadly so many of us don't realize this is the case. And Phoenix isn't really that taxed. Arizona State taxes are fairly low unless you talk sales taxes.
That being said, if you are a dish washer in a cheap place, for heavens sake dont MOVE TO a place like NYC. I see a lot of stories about Carl Clueless moving straight to NYC after graduating college and making 35K a year to start.
Then live someplace where your dollar goes farther.
That's nice except it doesn't reflect reality. If you are a low wage worker moving is very difficult, you don't usually get your apartment deposit back the same day you move out so in order to rent a new place you would have had to save for deposit and first months rent. Moving trucks aren't cheap by any means and throwing everything you own away and starting over isn't feasible because it could take years for a low wage worker to be able to acquire household goods again.
So, your suggestion makes about as much sense as the "you wouldn't be poor if you had planned better" meme
Maybe we can all just go back to the old system of "barter" and dispense with currency all together.
i.e.:
If so, (I have a few Chickens, Hen's for that matter, and they lay egg's, x # per day, ... what can you offer for the Hen's inclusive of consideration for the future eggs they may lay?)
No thanks, Jenny across the street, had a rooster get in the hen house, and we traded some fresh corn for some chicks, a few years ago. I'm good on chickens.
I need a good young tested Bull, though. Mines getting old. Got a few firearms to trade.
This makes no sense. The world economy has moved past little things like Mom and Pop stores, markets and farms. We make BIG things now. In the aeronautics industry, they make airplanes. I could not do that myself. And if EVERYONE is self employed, whom do I hire? The healthcare makes zillions of diagnostic gadgets along with giant software systems to support them and to provide medical records and billing. I can't do either one of those myself. But if everyone is self employed, whom am I going to hire? The list goes on and on.
It has long been known that the ascendancy of human over other animals has more to do with our collaboration (and the domesticity and mutually beneficial relationship with dogs) than it does with our thumbs.
So, everything is based upon your feelings?
I'm self employed and find other self employed people, to partner up with, to accomplish great things and new ideas.
I tell them what I need from them on each individual project or task and they let me know what it is going to cost me and what they will and will not be doing of what is asked, or have a different angle at accomplishing the same task.
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Then live someplace where your dollar goes farther.
Why are you talking to me, I make the hourly equivalent of $26/hr (paid by the load)
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