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There is an interesting perspective from Dan Savage on Bill Maher this week. Wouldn't Democrats be better off embracing the representation of cities rather than trying to win over rural America? He's right, John Kerry shooting a gun is not going to win over rural Republicans so don't bother. Embrace representing the cities as the engines of commerce for this country. Represent those highly populace cities with fervor and represent their economies and voters without apology. As cities get confident with their representation, we can put to control our dollars at home more rather than sending it to rural areas.
Democrats should focus on our strengths, revenue generation, education, diversity, environment, healthcare. Let Republicans have rural voters and don't waste another penny on them, instead, fully embrace the metro areas with no apologies.
Yes we get it, you're desperate to paint rural areas as backwards hellholes and all cities as engines of industry that don't need yokels with their own values and opinions.
Just today the local NPR station broadcasted an interview with the president of a local hospital system who said that the medicaid expansion was the only thing keeping most rural hospitals from closing.
This is already occurring in states that didn;t take the expansion and it will get much worse should the ACA be repealed.
hundreds of hospitals have gone belly up in the last 5 years....because they cant AFFORD to keep their doors open
expanding Medicaid, is just corporate welfare for the hospitals.....funny thing is , its the liberals that usually demonize corporate welfare, ****unless they are the ones proposing it, like Al Gore's stupid idea of corn ethanol (using hemp would have been better)
East and West Coast Progressives' disdain, including politicians and media, for the values of Middle American, suburban America, and rural America has been espoused for at least a decade. You are late in your assessment and recommendation to Democrats, Seacove.
hundreds of hospitals have gone belly up in the last 5 years....because they cant AFFORD to keep their doors open
expanding Medicaid, is just corporate welfare for the hospitals.....funny thing is , its the liberals that usually demonize corporate welfare, ****unless they are the ones proposing it, like Al Gore's stupid idea of corn ethanol (using hemp would have been better)
Sure it's corporate welfare, but it's the only thing keeping many rural health centers and hospitals open. The same hospital president said that they get back 5% of the money spent treating uninsured patients and in a poor area that was a big portion of their patient base prior to the state accepting the Medicaid expansion.
The hospital in question is in an area that went red a few cycles back and heavily favored Trump. It's the sixth poorest county in the state, has lots of elderly people, a declining population, heavy public assistance rates for food and heating, and is 98% white. Nearly every proposal from this current congress and President would harm the people of this county, but I don't know if they even know or care.
If this is what it's like for Republicans to embrace rural areas I'd hate to see what it would be like if they opposed rural areas. GOP cares nothing about rural America -- especially those at or near the poverty level or in need of Medicaid.
It was Trump, not the GOP, who made all sorts of promises to get the rural vote and then flushed them down the toilet. The GOP never has any intention of helping the rural population.
Sure it's corporate welfare, but it's the only thing keeping many rural health centers and hospitals open. The same hospital president said that they get back 5% of the money spent treating uninsured patients and in a poor area that was a big portion of their patient base prior to the state accepting the Medicaid expansion.
You know, this wouldn't be such a concern if everyone had access to health care and we didn't rely on insurance companies to pay for it.
EVERYONE already has access to health care... its called a doctor/nurse/provider, open up the yellow pages, make an appointment and get seen....
insurance has never been and never will be CARE
insurance is risk management....it is about having someone pay YOUR BILL
There is an interesting perspective from Dan Savage on Bill Maher this week. Wouldn't Democrats be better off embracing the representation of cities rather than trying to win over rural America? He's right, John Kerry shooting a gun is not going to win over rural Republicans so don't bother. Embrace representing the cities as the engines of commerce for this country. Represent those highly populace cities with fervor and represent their economies and voters without apology. As cities get confident with their representation, we can put to control our dollars at home more rather than sending it to rural areas.
Democrats should focus on our strengths, revenue generation, education, diversity, environment, healthcare. Let Republicans have rural voters and don't waste another penny on them, instead, fully embrace the metro areas with no apologies.
Where do Leftists get the idea that Republicans all live in rural areas? I've lived in the country for the last 22 years, but we moved here from San Diego. I'm pretty sure that there are more Democrats in this area than there are Republicans, judging by what I see at the polls when we go to vote. There are always more Democrat voting machines than there are Republican. And, except for this last election (Nov) there are usually more Dem. yard signs than there are Republican. In fact one of the local farmers had "Forward" painted on his silo! This is a strong union area.
And by the way, Democrats hunt and shoot guns too!
It used to be that the city of San Diego was a Republican stronghold. I don't think it is at the moment, but that was how it was when we lived there, except we did have Mayor "Queen Maurene O'Conner," a Dem.
Sure it's corporate welfare, but it's the only thing keeping many rural health centers and hospitals open. The same hospital president said that they get back 5% of the money spent treating uninsured patients and in a poor area that was a big portion of their patient base prior to the state accepting the Medicaid expansion.
The hospital in question is in an area that went red a few cycles back and heavily favored Trump. It's the sixth poorest county in the state, has lots of elderly people, a declining population, heavy public assistance rates for food and heating, and is 98% white. Nearly every proposal from this current congress and President would harm the people of this county, but I don't know if they even know or care.
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Gosh, well if all of the good people in rural America would just pay their bills then I guess there wouldn't be a problem.
LOL. These are scattered hospitals as you said in the poorest of counties whose patient base has been declining and are majority are elderly (medicare) or on assistance (medicaid) and use Emergency services as their primary health provider. Why would anyone expect them to stay open. They operate in the red therefore need to close.
Some of you seem to believe this is representative of all rural areas, its not.
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Is this a serious thread?
