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Old 07-04-2017, 03:59 PM
 
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Coal is certainly important to those that depend on it for a lively-hood but face it. Coal is old tech and no matter how hard you try, it is as doomed as the horse and buggy and Ebeneezer Scrooge.
love the irony and talk about "horse and buggy" ^^^^
Coal is more energy efficient than solar/wind, so tell us whats your criteria for going backwards?
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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Coal is certainly important to those that depend on it for a lively-hood but face it. Coal is old tech and no matter how hard you try, it is as doomed as the horse and buggy and Ebeneezer Scrooge.
Like those that want to use there current "solar" depends on coal to fuel whats important to them?

Get something stable, not pushed....then get back with us...
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The market is speaking loud and clear.

The future is clean energy. Right-wingers can try, but they will find that they can't beat the market.




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Markets you said? If it's that clear cut, what's this then?

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Old 07-04-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Coal is certainly important to those that depend on it for a lively-hood but face it. Coal is old tech and no matter how hard you try, it is as doomed as the horse and buggy and Ebeneezer Scrooge.
Doesn't matter which one is "older." Oil has been around as long as coal but I notice you are not shelving oil. And if solar is such a great idea, why do we need IRS Form 5695?
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Oh my god, how out of touch can some people be???

Expecting the effect to be final and immediate after mere months after exiting the agreement when these kind of things takes years to play itself out??

The best way I can explain to you is that most people don't get cancer after smoking just one cigarette. The poison takes years to accumulate and destroy the body.

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but your fellow shriekers implied very strongly it would be a virtually instantaneous process.

how long before the industry you brag about so loudly goes bust?
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Old 07-04-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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but your fellow shriekers implied very strongly it would be a virtually instantaneous process.

how long before the industry you brag about so loudly goes bust?

If Trump and their fellow right-wingers have their way, sooner than most people realize.

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Old 07-04-2017, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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If Trump and their fellow right-wingers have their way, sooner than most people realize.

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Name a president that can make the oil industry go bust. You can't because there isn't one. Solar? Just pull the plug. It'll all come crashing down.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Travel agencies employ over 20,000 more people than the coal industry - - and both are equally antiquated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.113598d7f8b8
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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The market is speaking loud and clear.

The future is clean energy. Right-wingers can try, but they will find that they can't beat the market.
Ridiculous false premise. No one on the Right is opposed to "clean energy".
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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The market is speaking loud and clear.

The future is clean energy. Right-wingers can try, but they will find that they can't beat the market.




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Well, great news! If it makes it in the market, it makes it.
So...we don't need to be mandating it or subsidizing it.
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