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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
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So how it is that the righteous don't make an attempt at being nonjudgmental, sharing, helping out those in troubled times, ... ?
Trumpcare debate has been an eye opener for some. Just read where a third of Republicans polled recently support repealing ACA even without a replacement health care plan.
Who are these people?
And why are Christians having anything to do with them, much less a solid slice of Trump's base?
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And you haven't provided that example. You made a claim, please provide backing for that claim.
patience is a virtue they say ...
I did however, provide an example (complete with dealers that appeared, who purchased that which they thought was waste paper) of that which happened 517 years ago in the salvage of the Holy Bible, so as to compare with the actions of Hobby Lobby today ... in their purchase in order to preserve and bring to people, something they thought was very important.
Now I have an appt. to keep, try not to lose it while I'm gone.
He knew it was to come about and He prepared His disciples for the situation and they told him, we do not understand what it is you are speaking about and He replied ...
If I tell you of things of the flesh and you understand not, how is it you will understand that which is of the spirit.
So there you go ...
Yea, I have heard all the apologetic rationalizations for why it is acceptable in Christian philosophy for individual Christians to pass off their personal responsibility and consequences for their own thoughts and actions onto Jesus as a vicarious human sacrifice. I did not buy them then and I don't buy them now, sorry. If it helps soothe your cognitive dissonance on the issue to assume I just don't get it because I am not "spiritual" enough then so be it.
I did however, provide an example (complete with dealers that appeared, who purchased that which they thought was waste paper) of that which happened 517 years ago in the salvage of the Holy Bible, so as to compare with the actions of Hobby Lobby today ... in their purchase in order to preserve and bring to people, something they thought was very important.
Now I have an appt. to keep, try not to lose it while I'm gone.
Except for Hobby Lobby had purchased these items before and had been told NOT TO DO IT AGAIN. and then did. AND then purposely used sketchy methods -- this was premeditated, purposeful, sinful, illegal, morally corrupt and inexcusable.
Stop justifying their illegal,criminal activity because they believe in God.
How is this a moral concept in the slightest? The idea that an innocent person can shoulder the consequences of the actions of the guilty and God is completely satisfied by it is just completely morally repugnant.
Orthodox Christian belief is that one can lose their salvation due to bad intent or action. This requires repeated examination of conscience, the firm ongoing intention to avoid sin in all forms and positive acts of love and kindness toward others as if they were Christ Himself. We all fall short of this lofty measure in some way because of our inherent flaws but we must recognize that, seek forgiveness and work to overcome them.
Some unorthodox apparently believe that once saved a person can not lose their salvation, incredible as it may seem there are even those who believe that material prosperity is a sign of God's favor, it seems to have been very popular belief among some Protestants at times, perhaps even now.
Orthodox Christian belief is that one can lose their salvation due to bad intent or action.
Do you mean "Orthodox" with a capital o? Or do you mean to suggest that it's Biblical teaching? Because the Bible tells us that no--we cannot lose our salvation by anything we do. We are not saved through human effort, and we don't lose our salvation through human effort.
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This requires repeated examination of conscience, the firm ongoing intention to avoid sin in all forms and positive acts of love and kindness toward others as if they were Christ Himself. We all fall short of this lofty measure in some way because of our inherent flaws but we must recognize that, seek forgiveness and work to overcome them.
Some unorthodox apparently believe that once saved a person can not lose their salvation, incredible as it may seem there are even those who believe that material prosperity is a sign of God's favor, it seems to have been very popular belief among some Protestants at times, perhaps even now.
Yes--there are Word of Faith preachers that gain monetarily by preaching that heretical message. But it is neither mainstream, nor Biblical.
Do you mean "Orthodox" with a capital o? Or do you mean to suggest that it's Biblical teaching? Because the Bible tells us that no--we cannot lose our salvation by anything we do. We are not saved through human effort, and we don't lose our salvation through human effort.
Yes--there are Word of Faith preachers that gain monetarily by preaching that heretical message. But it is neither mainstream, nor Biblical.
Can't be that accurate when two people can read the same book and come to completely opposite conclusions.
Y'all fight it out, I got no dog in this hunt.
*munches popcorn*
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