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Only if you throw them in the rivers and lakes etc.
They can travel hundreds if not thousands of miles, people throw them in garbage cans and when it's windy they can end up anywhere. They are everywhere.
There was chain link fence after Hurricane Sandy that captured hundreds of bags, who knows where the others ended up.
Again. English language is quite comprehensive. I still do not see your point. If civil discourse not something you want to engage I then fine. Then feel free not to respond.
Again. English language is quite comprehensive. I still do not see your point. If civil discourse not something you want to engage I then fine. Then feel free not to respond.
LOL
You accuse me of being lazy and polluting... and that's civil discourse... gotcha.
LOL
You accuse me of being lazy and polluting... and that's civil discourse... gotcha.
No. Id did not accuse., I questioned. My quote
So you ar for trashing the earth? Why? Laziness?
Notice the ? mark. That indicates a counter. In your post that I commented on you did not give much of a reason why you did not think much of plastic bags.
Now is "trashing the earth" pointed? Yes. But that I will stand behind
They can travel hundreds if not thousands of miles, people throw them in garbage cans and when it's windy they can end up anywhere. They are everywhere.
There was chain link fence after Hurricane Sandy that captured hundreds of bags, who knows where the others ended up.
That's a stretch. Plastics at the surface will decompose very quickly. I used to study how to prevent plastics from decomposing under the sun.
Notice the ? mark. That indicates a counter. In your post that I commented on you did not give much of a reason why you did not think much of plastic bags.
Now is "trashing the earth" pointed? Yes. But that I will stand behind
And I wasn't and am not for it...
What part of... I lived in NY and crossed over to mass 1 time and found out they banned bags did you not understand... LOL It wasn't broadcast on the local news... my news came out of Albany NY not Pittsfield, Springfield or Boston MA... how would I have known?
And out of that you assume I was/am for polluting...
Gotcha.
That's a stretch. Plastics at the surface will decompose very quickly. I used to study how to prevent plastics from decomposing under the sun.
The particles end up in the water supply, they break down but remain present. There was an article regarding plastics ending up in fisheries. Also washing up on remote beaches in Hawaii.
I'd like to see the debate of which is worse, paper or plastic, solved once and for all.
This has been going on for years. Whatever type they end up proving is worse, I'll be glad to comply.
For now, if they give me plastic it ends up being used for dog poo. I have a huge bag of plastic bags and every once in a while I take them to the local cat rescue. They use them for the cat litter boxes. Other times I donate the used plastic bags to our local thrift store and they're glad to have them.
As for the reusable bags, fine. If that became law maybe I'd have to start to remember to take mine every time!
Yes! Another victory for the environment and our standard of living.
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Given the current trend, customers in Kermit and across the country will be able once again to bring their groceries home in inexpensive bags provided by their merchants. A challenge to the legality of all local bag bans in the state has made its way to the Texas Supreme Court. State legislatures across the country are taking aggressive steps to roll back local bans.
In May the Minnesota legislature passed a state-wide preemption on bag bans, overturning Minneapolis's local prohibition. Iowa did the same in April, and over the past year, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Indiana, have all passed restrictions on local governments banning and taxing bags.
"People are realizing that in a feel-good environment you can ban or tax anything," said Phil Rozenski, Senior Director of Sustainability for Novolex, a major plastics manufacturer. The discussion has now shifted to the actual effect of these bans.
What the environMENTALists don't seem to understand is that these bag ban propositions had nothing to do with the environment. The grocers started this idea to save money, and the bags didn't go away... they just made them thicker and started charging for them. They have saved millions on not supplying cheap bags and millions on selling slightly less cheap bags. It was a con, just like CON Agra spending 60M to convince voters that GMO labeling was going to cost people billions in CA. The fact was that fair labeling was going cost big agra billions (not for ink) and they couldn't have that.
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Originally Posted by in_newengland
I'd like to see the debate of which is worse, paper or plastic, solved once and for all.
Paper is far better environmentally because it's biodegradable. Plastic isn't, but it's cheaper and more convenient. I'd love to see paper bags brought back, using plastic sparingly for liquid items that would crash paper if they broke open.
Better yet, why can't they come up with a biodegradable plastic-like bag? They've done it for other containers.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
The particles end up in the water supply, they break down but remain present. There was an article regarding plastics ending up in fisheries. Also washing up on remote beaches in Hawaii.
It's not as bad as it once was, in N America that is. Most cities now have recycling programs, so much of the plastic never makes it to our land fills anymore.
The mess though is from how plastics were dumped the first 30 years, and how other countries (especially western Africa) are disposing of theirs now. The north Pacific (great garbage patch) has a huge problem going on.
What part of... I lived in NY and crossed over to mass 1 time and found out they banned bags did you not understand... LOL It wasn't broadcast on the local news... my news came out of Albany NY not Pittsfield, Springfield or Boston MA... how would I have known?
And out of that you assume I was/am for polluting...
Gotcha.
Actually you never said your were living in NY Also you would on the surface seem sot deride the plastic ban
There was a place outside the grocery stores to take old plastic bags... I figured they just recycled them... pull them out and re use them... nope.
That would have made sense...
Typically plastic will go through a sterilization process before reuse. It would make no sense for say a grocery store to be equipped for that. I mean would you want a bag that had chicken blood in it.
Perhaps that is not what you are describing but it sure seems so.
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