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Old 07-08-2017, 07:59 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Horse Hockey.

And that link doesn't work either... at least not on.my phone.
You might want to get your insurance to fund you a new phone.

Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean others don't either.

Either way repeal is not the solution. Replace isn't the solution either. Just fix and adjust what is in place. Obama and the Democrats put a template in place to be worked and changed. Too bad our government can't work together to fix it.

I am so thankful for my insurance through my company. I know that it can change at any moment but right now it is absolutely the gold standard.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: FL
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Nice spin on the part of the article. Factually 7% want to keep it.
51% want to keep and improve it.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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You might want to get your insurance to fund you a new phone.

Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean others don't either.

Either way repeal is not the solution. Replace isn't the solution either. Just fix and adjust what is in place. Obama and the Democrats put a template in place to be worked and changed. Too bad our government can't work together to fix it.

I am so thankful for my insurance through my company. I know that it can change at any moment but right now it is absolutely the gold standard.
There is no "fixing" what's in place.

Obamacare was designed to fail and to be impossible to fix.

A necessary stepping stone to single payer that people would not otherwise accept.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:43 PM
 
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51% want to keep and improve it.
Once you fix what is wrong, it's no longer Obamacare. The biggest thing wrong with it is the insurance companies. How do you fix that and still claim it's Obamacare?
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Old 07-09-2017, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Some of us live in the real world where the GOP is trying to repeal ACA and leave us with nothing. We do NOT need your progressive purity tests where perfect is the enemy of the achievable. Single payer is NOT happening in this climate, no matter how much you whine. I'll take what we can get, add a public option and continue to take incremental steps forward over a big fat goose egg any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

And btw, universal healthcare is NOT synonymous with single payer.
^^This^^ +1
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Old 07-09-2017, 12:30 AM
 
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^^This^^ +1
Wall Street is running our health care........I have no idea how you can be satisfied with that.
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:19 AM
 
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Obamacare has a lot of issues but there are 3 important parts of it that need to be kept no matter what. These policies appliy to all insurance plans now, not just the ones on the exchange.

1. Insurance companies are no longer allowed to deny people with pre-existing conditions. Insurance companies would refuse to cover these people pre-Obamacare because they couldn't make a profit off of them.
2. Obamacare banned lifetime limits set by insurance companies for desperately needed care. If you went over the limit, you were almost certain to go bankrupt and be denied essential care.
3. 11 Essential Health Benefits. These are absolutely essential. Many pre-Obamacare policies didn't have these and therefore were insurance policies in name only. Two of the most important essential benefits are prescription drugs and emergency care. What the hell good is an insurance plan without prescription drug coverage and emergency room coverage?

If Republicans ensured these 3 MAJOR factors were preserved in their healthcare plan, I would support it. But without them, it's worthless and we move farther away from the goal of universal coverage and quality care for the American people.
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Old 07-09-2017, 04:03 AM
 
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Obamacare has a lot of issues but there are 3 important parts of it that need to be kept no matter what. These policies appliy to all insurance plans now, not just the ones on the exchange.

1. Insurance companies are no longer allowed to deny people with pre-existing conditions. Insurance companies would refuse to cover these people pre-Obamacare because they couldn't make a profit off of them.
2. Obamacare banned lifetime limits set by insurance companies for desperately needed care. If you went over the limit, you were almost certain to go bankrupt and be denied essential care.
3. 11 Essential Health Benefits. These are absolutely essential. Many pre-Obamacare policies didn't have these and therefore were insurance policies in name only. Two of the most important essential benefits are prescription drugs and emergency care. What the hell good is an insurance plan without prescription drug coverage and emergency room coverage?

If Republicans ensured these 3 MAJOR factors were preserved in their healthcare plan, I would support it. But without them, it's worthless and we move farther away from the goal of universal coverage and quality care for the American people.
Insurance companies shouldn't be deciding anything.
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Old 07-09-2017, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
Obamacare has a lot of issues but there are 3 important parts of it that need to be kept no matter what. These policies appliy to all insurance plans now, not just the ones on the exchange.

1. Insurance companies are no longer allowed to deny people with pre-existing conditions. Insurance companies would refuse to cover these people pre-Obamacare because they couldn't make a profit off of them.
2. Obamacare banned lifetime limits set by insurance companies for desperately needed care. If you went over the limit, you were almost certain to go bankrupt and be denied essential care.
3. 11 Essential Health Benefits. These are absolutely essential. Many pre-Obamacare policies didn't have these and therefore were insurance policies in name only. Two of the most important essential benefits are prescription drugs and emergency care. What the hell good is an insurance plan without prescription drug coverage and emergency room coverage?

If Republicans ensured these 3 MAJOR factors were preserved in their healthcare plan, I would support it. But without them, it's worthless and we move farther away from the goal of universal coverage and quality care for the American people.
You mean like Medicare?
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Old 07-09-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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Conservative Corner Of California Pushes To Preserve Obamacare : Shots - Health News : NPR

She likes what she has, but only because she's not intelligent enough to understand that it's the ACA that provides her coverage. She voted for the GOP who is planning on taking her coverage away, and probably will be shocked and surprised if that actually happens, even though it's what she voted for.
And what is she going to do when her insurance company pulls lout of Ca, like is happening all over the U.S.?

Do a search using this, "insurance companies pulling out of obamacare" like this one,

"UnitedHealth Group, the nation's largest health insurer, announced Tuesday that it will be pulling out of Obamacare's insurance marketplaces in most states where it operates, raising questions about what the move would mean for customers and whether competitors would carry out their threats to leave as well."

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...care-exchanges


Humana, Blue cross, Aetna, etc are pulling out.
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