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I'm not sure what to make of this story. I mean, here are the lyrics:
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“You wanna know what’s more important than throwin’ away money at a strip club? Credit/ You ever wonder why Jewish people own all the property in America? This how they did it.”
Now knowing black people as well as I do (better than anyone that ISN'T black), I understand what's going on in Jay's mind. To be frank, African Americans have ALWAYS believed that all Jews are loaded. We don't attribute this to any nefariousness, we just tend to think that they have an innate ability to sniff out the best opportunities to get the cheddar whether that be through business, management, the professions, entertainment or investment opportunities. Black folks have always attributed almost magical powers to Jewish people when it comes to obtaining wealth.
Rappers, many of whom tend to glorify wealth, have dropped tons of lines over the years about how they're "getting money with the Jews" and so on. It's mostly bluster and fantasy, but i read on more than a few websites that these lyrics haven't escaped many Jews that pay attention to popular culture. However, they almost always attribute those lyrics to insensitivity and not Anti-Semitism. I agree with that assessment wholeheartedly.
These rappers think they're being complimentary (we all want money, right?), and some probably don't care either way how it's taken. But there is a disconnect there, and maybe there should be a discussion between rappers and Jewish groups as to how hurtful these words apparently are. Maybe hurtful is too strong, but I don't think that African Americans understand why this stereotype causes some Jews to squirm a bit.
I'm not sure what to make of this story. I mean, here are the lyrics:
Now knowing black people as well as I do (better than anyone that ISN'T black), I understand what's going on in Jay's mind. To be frank, African Americans have ALWAYS believed that all Jews are loaded. We don't attribute this to any nefariousness, we just tend to think that they have an innate ability to sniff out the best opportunities to get the cheddar whether that be through business, management, the professions, entertainment or investment opportunities. Black folks have always attributed almost magical powers to Jewish people when it comes to obtaining wealth.
Rappers, many of whom tend to glorify wealth, have dropped tons of lines over the years about how they're "getting money with the Jews" and so on. It's mostly bluster and fantasy, but i read on more than a few websites that these lyrics haven't escaped many Jews that pay attention to popular culture. However, they almost always attribute those lyrics to insensitivity and not Anti-Semitism. I agree with that assessment wholeheartedly.
These rappers think they're being complimentary (we all want money, right?), and some probably don't care either way how it's taken. But there is a disconnect there, and maybe there should be a discussion between rappers and Jewish groups as to how hurtful these words apparently are. Maybe hurtful is too strong, but I don't think that African Americans understand why this stereotype causes some Jews to squirm a bit.
Is stereotyping of Jews OK if it is insensitive and not Anti-Semitic? How do you tell the difference?
To the first question, I can't speak for the Jews. If we're talking about matters of insensitivity rather than bigotry or racism, then it's more nebulous...therefore more complicated.
On the second question, it's one of those things where one knows it when he sees it. But again, ask a Jew. I posted a link where a Jewish guy defended Jay by saying the exact same thing I said.
To the first question, I can't speak for the Jews. If we're talking about matters of insensitivity rather than bigotry or racism, then it's more nebulous...therefore more complicated.
On the second question, it's one of those things where one knows it when he sees it. But again, ask a Jew. I posted a link where a Jewish guy defended Jay by saying the exact same thing I said.
I'm a Jew. Stereotyping of Jews is always ignorant and usually anti-Semitic.
You posted about Rappers' lyrics regarding Jews and money, what did you say..... Jews sniff out opportunities..... and said you "wholeheartedly" agreed Rappers' lyrics regarding Jews were "insensitive" but not "anti-Semitic". Thus my question. How do you tell the difference between the two?
I'm a Jew. Stereotyping of Jews is always ignorant and usually anti-Semitic.
You posted about Rappers' lyrics regarding Jews and money and said you "wholeheartedly" agreed Rappers' lyrics regarding Jews were "insensitive" but not "anti-Semitic". Thus my question. How do you tell the difference between the two?
Suppose you should ask him if he thinks stereotyping blacks is racist?
Edit to add:I doubt the promoter who defended his words is an ambassador of your faith as well.
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I'm a Jew. Stereotyping of Jews is always ignorant and usually anti-Semitic.
You posted about Rappers' lyrics regarding Jews and money and said you "wholeheartedly" agreed Rappers' lyrics regarding Jews were "insensitive" but not "anti-Semitic". Thus my question. How do you tell the difference between the two?
I agree with the bold,
There are plenty of people on this site who love to do the same of black people.
Suppose you should ask him if he thinks stereotyping blacks is racist?
Edit to add:I doubt the promoter who defended his words is an ambassador of your faith as well.
Can we stay on the subject of the thread?
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