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Old 07-14-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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Also At Trump Jr.-Russia Meeting: An Ex-U.S. Government Worker With Liberal Views | HuffPost

This guy is a US citizen who has failed to come forward with his story. Like he hasn't heard about the investigation?

Why should he be permitted to keep his US citizenship?

How many other people are there out there who have information about contacts between Team Trump and foreign governments that have failed to step forward.

 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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Yeh keep blaming Obama,how is that working for you???
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OBAMA!OBAMA! OBAMA! Blah blah blah blah blah. Cons go to: desperate deflection.
I can't help it if I made both of you shiver in your boots when I said this all happened under the Obama admin

A very poor attempt to ignore the post and just go off on your usual childish attempt to avoid the facts.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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This entire finger pointing to Obama's administration over Jr's meeting is a poor attempt at deflection and completely irrelevant to the meeting itself.
" Jr's meeting is a poor attempt at deflection and completely irrelevant to the meeting itself."

BS.

The ENTIRE story is WHO Jr met with.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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" Jr's meeting is a poor attempt at deflection and completely irrelevant to the meeting itself."

BS.

The ENTIRE story is WHO Jr met with.
And WHY she was in the US without a visa.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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This is such a pointless argument.

Was Jr. forced into meeting with this woman and the rest of her entourage?

Of course not.

No amount of spin and deflection will change the fact that Jr., Kushner and Manafort willingly met with a representative of a foreign government.

None.
Why can't anyone from the left address, much less answer, the question, WHY was she ALLOWED to be here in the first place, being what the left says are her closeness to the Russian govt, if meeting with her was such a bad idea?

WHY did Lynch PERSONALLY intervene and get her a special VISA if she is a Russian operative?
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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Why are we parsing who had a visa and when? All I want to know is what espionage was committed .
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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Why are we parsing who had a visa and when? All I want to know is what espionage was committed .
That goes back to why Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ let a foreign operative into the US, and let her remain in the US, without a visa.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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Very good analysis of what Hannity failed to ask Jr during an interview


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.50faac9d3169

This to me is a clear example why Trump supporters see an alternate universe.

Instead of embracing news sources from multiple angles and forcing themselves to think, they focus on just news that is a reinforcement of their views.

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Old 07-14-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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That goes back to why Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ let a foreign operative into the US, and let her remain in the US, without a visa.
She had a federal court case to attend to and was an attorney.

I really find this angle by Trump supporters interesting. On the one hand they want to pretend this meeting wasn't illegal.

On the other hand they want to claim the participant from Russia was so clearly illegal that the Obama administration must have been the real guilty party for allowing her in the Country.

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Old 07-14-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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And WHY she was in the US without a visa.
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That goes back to why Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ let a foreign operative into the US, and let her remain in the US, without a visa.
*Ahem!*

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She had a federal court case to attend to and was an attorney.
And let's be nice and specific about that case: this was an alleged $200M+ money laundering case involving a Russian oligarch (Prevezon). A case brought against the oligarch she was representing by US Attorney Preet Bharara. Trump fired Bharara, then his DoJ settled the case for less than $6M.

In maybe the strangest linkage involving this case, a key witness for the prosecution was thrown from a window about two weeks after Bharara was fired by Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.359bb7343aa8

Prevezon: Russian money-laundering details remain dark as US settles fraud case - CNN.com

Magnitsky family lawyer reportedly thrown from building

Lawyer Probing Russian Corruption Says His Balcony Fall Was 'No Accident' - NBC News

This is not a good bunch of people to be mixed up with.
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