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View Poll Results: Did Trump and company collude with an enemy of the USA to win the presidency?
Yes 213 59.83%
No 143 40.17%
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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Trump Jr's own release of his emails incriminates him as far as the matter of being open to working with a foreign power to undermine and influence the US Presidential election.

Per the emails, Trump Jr, Kushner, and Manafort agreed to meet with a "RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT ATTORNEY" (per the words in the emails). The emails further suggest that this person had Russian information and documents that would incriminate Hillary Clinton. This high level and sensitive information was part of Russia and its government's support for Donald J Trump.
answer this question



did Russia cause Trump to win?

 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Just when you thought this disastrous G20 input on behalf of the US would be the embarrassment of the week.


Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign https://nyti.ms/2uWPOMw
Meanwhile you completely dismiss Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

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Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
Let's all repeat "Russia! Russia! Russia!" as if it means something while it means squat.

The opposition research teams of both parties goes on 365 days a year and you are trying to tell the world that Hillary Clinton wouldn't have talked to someone of a foreign government if they claimed they had dirt on a rival? Of course they would.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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So you think the Trump, Junior emails, that Junior himself just released, are not authentic?
Russia says they gave them nothing. Russia never expected Trump to win any more than anyone else did. Was Trump looking for an advantage? Perhaps so. And?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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We compete with them in certain areas. That does not make them our enemy or one that we should threaten to shoot down their planes in places they has as much right if not more to be in.
I understand that your anti-war position informs your world view, but I disagree strongly with your position here. Russia is a competitor, and THEIR actions have often made them our enemy. Their actions in Syria and in Ukraine are actions against the United States as well as actions against our allies. While I fully support the idea that we should explore every peaceful path to settle our differences, I think it's important to understand that their efforts to influence this recent election wasn't just to get their favored candidate into office, it was an attack on American democracy and the faith Americans have in the democratic process. They wanted to compromise the integrity of our election process.

Because they were largely (though not entirely) unsuccessful at hacking into our state-level election systems, the integrity of the election was protected. But they tried every means to interfere, and the fact that the Trump campaign was so open to them is troubling.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Another one who has not followed the news. Probably just as well for you pknopp.
This is typical. This is why the (D)'s are losing. It's about me as opposed to facts and what the party is going to do for the people.

"Trump, Russia, Trump, Russia" is NOT going to win elections. That is what you should be worrying about.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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answer this question



did Russia cause Trump to win?
Unknown.

Your turn: Did Russia try to help Trump win?

Trick question, Junior already gave us a definitive YES! on that one.

Do you think Putin wanted Trump in the WH out of the goodness of his heart, and didn't expect anything in return? Because the dictator and former KGB head had benign intentions, right?

You can't possibly be that gullible, can you?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I didn't realize she was an employee of the Russian government. Where did she work in Russia?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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hope Hillary runs again in 2020 so she can get her rightful win
Sarcasm?

Hillary's time has passed. We'll see new faces, and hopefully new ideas, in 2020.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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Sarcasm?

Hillary's time has passed. We'll see new faces, and hopefully new ideas, in 2020.
you kidding me



the left is constantly making excuses for her and saying her win was stolen


she already says she has plans to participate in the 2018 midterms. Another run in 2020 would not be out of the question
 
Old 07-11-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Has Hillary announced for 2020 yet?
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