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Old 07-11-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: The City of Buffalo!
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I think too many people want to generalized urban areas in particular but I, too have seen a lot of blight in rural and further out suburban areas.
I wish I had a dollar for ever run down abandon barn and/or farmhouse out in east farmers bumf*ck, most of which are ready to collapse.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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I wish I had a dollar for ever run down abandon barn and/or farmhouse out in east farmers bumf*ck, most of which are ready to collapse.
The drive from Austin to Houston is particularly depressing.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Just two days ago my old ghetto called out the national guard to help fight blight...

Ohio National Guard to fight blight in Youngstown - WFMJ.com News weather sports for Youngstown-Warren Ohio
That's a good idea. The media stated it was less in cost than their demolition contractor. I wonder how much the National Guard charges. I live in NW Ohio and we have some blighted neighborhoods that need to be torn down too. Luckily they are pretty active around here though on code enforcement so homes get taken down regularly.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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It's starting to happen now. We're seeing cities recover but places like Detroit, Baltimore, and Chicago seem to still not recover from urban blight and other issues. I'm aware that people believe that the real problem with inner cities schools starts in the home. Parents who do not demand that their children tow the line or act with respect are the ones who do not do well. If they're not being held to high behavioral standard in schools and at home then it can transition into adulthood but why do you believe this happens in the first place especially in inner cities? If these cities have gone into such disrepair then why don't the residents in the city come together? What's stopping it? I don't think the bureaucrats are to blame entirely. Corruption and financial mismanagement could be an issue in some places but I wouldn't say it happens in every city. What gives?

If the outcome of cleaning up your city is higher rents and displacement, why bother? Who would shoot themselves in the foot by pricing themselves out of their neighborhood? Poor renters are often negative stakeholders in their neighborhoods, not positive stakeholders.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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That's a good idea. The media stated it was less in cost than their demolition contractor. I wonder how much the National Guard charges. I live in NW Ohio and we have some blighted neighborhoods that need to be torn down too. Luckily they are pretty active around here though on code enforcement so homes get taken down regularly.

Why do they need to be torn down? Why can't people who need housing fix them up?
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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It's starting to happen now. We're seeing cities recover but places like Detroit, Baltimore, and Chicago seem to still not recover from urban blight and other issues. I'm aware that people believe that the real problem with inner cities schools starts in the home. Parents who do not demand that their children tow the line or act with respect are the ones who do not do well. If they're not being held to high behavioral standard in schools and at home then it can transition into adulthood but why do you believe this happens in the first place especially in inner cities? If these cities have gone into such disrepair then why don't the residents in the city come together? What's stopping it? I don't think the bureaucrats are to blame entirely. Corruption and financial mismanagement could be an issue in some places but I wouldn't say it happens in every city. What gives?
They are too busy trying to pick up an extra shift to explain to you why they are not taking part in a montage.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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Why do they need to be torn down? Why can't people who need housing fix them up?
We have a landbank that does surveys of homes here and those that can be fixed up are sold at a deep discount to either owner occupants or investors. The landbank will assist owner occupants in fixing up the homes, or the landbank has its own contractors and they'll fix up the homes themselves and sell them off fully renovated.

Those that are heavily damaged and blighted and they have no historical significance and will cost more to fix than they are worth, are torn down. Our city is tearing down nearly 3000 homes between 2016 and the end of this construction season (fall 2017).

I actually have bought land bank homes and fixed them up and rent them out. I also live in one I bought for less than $10k.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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By getting rid of Republican capitalists that allowed the massive division of wealth in this s*it hole of a country.

We are still waiting for your dictator to "make America great again".
Mostly the hole is in DNC run cities and states.
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Old 07-11-2017, 04:13 PM
 
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many inner city neighborhoods aka black neighborhoods were intentionally overpoliced and neglected financially. I know in my city certain white neighborhoods had it written in their HOA covenants to restrict blacks who could afford to leave the "ghetto" from living in white neighborhoods. People don't like to talk about this stuff as many of you are probably already cracking your knuckles to deflect to something else, but yeah, things were designed this way and you can't just "bootstrap" your way out of these situations as a community. It's going to take a few generations and some other things have to change. But we can stop pretending small town and rural America are any better.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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I live in Youngstown, which has already been cited in this thread. There has been some improvement in this city over the last 10 years, or so. A lot of that has been spearheaded by people who decided that this place matters, and have come together to start to make things better.

Unfortunately, most people (wherever they live: urban, suburban, or rural) would rather just ignore the problems in their community; they don't see how they could make a difference. If they have the means, they move away from these problems, because that's the easiest solution, for them.
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