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Clearly most of you have never been to an "inner city" area.
From my experiences in Detroit, a lot of the community building things are done by local residents. You just don't hear about them as much because most suburbanites are too afraid to even go there to notice.
This Old House did a series on two Detroit homes. One was in really bad shape in a sparse neighborhood, the other was in a occupied neighborhood that surely wasn't 'poor' Both houses were re-habed and the series concentrated on saying how many houses have been restored. It was a great step PBS & This Old House took.
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Exactly. People will always work with what they have...it just so happens i the poorest areas the opportunities are sparse. For the person above who thinks they have it made, try living on welfare and food stamps for six months and see how well your quality of life improves.
Try telling these lily white suburbanites that. They are past clueless living in their gated community with iron gates and armed guards at the entrance.
Gentrification takes care of it as such people get priced out and replaced by people who do take care of their surroundings. Those people generally have higher IQs and educational levels.
Yes, wealth is related to IQ generally. Those displaced move somewhere. Gentrification prices the poor out, and they then live on the streets and alley's of the neighborhoods which used to be their home. Most major cities have significant homeless issues.
You wrote the above in response to my comment that Chicago is not all that blighted.
Your response makes me go
"Blight" is not crime....
Blight is neglected, deteriorating homes/structures and/or neighborhoods. Crime and blight are not the same.
Also, Chicago is not even a top crime city with the increase that occurred last year. How many people were shot/killed in NYC or Atlanta over 4th of July weekend? How about Detroit or Flint or Little Rock, AR????
I doubt you know about any of the others because the media just likes to focus on Chicago. The bold/black cities all have crime rates that are higher than Chicago.
When it all started, I don't know. But it's now a several-generation-old mind set. When a child is born into a society that doesn't care about their surroundings, education, or (fill in the blank), it's all they know. If only there were more role models like Dr. Carson who worked his way out of poverty, then maybe the cycle could one day be broken. Sadly right now, it looks like it's a loosing battle.
I think this is a key point. The problem is many people growing up in these neighborhoods emulate bad role models. The people they see getting money are many times drug dealers, and those are the people they consider "cool" and want to grow up to be like. It becomes part of their culture. Things like getting a good education and doing well in school are not considered "cool," because they don't see anyone doing that.
This is where strong parenting, and positive role models are critical. Even some good parenting in these neighborhoods is not always as effective as it could be. For example, many good parents in these neighborhoods will encourage their kids to play sports as a way to escape the ills of the neighborhood, which is fine, but the problem is so few people make it in sports and most of them prioritize sports over education. When they don't end up making it to the pros (which 99% won't), most do not have the grades or education to make it into top level professional fields. Even though they were "good kids" they still don't progress up the social-economic strata because they thought that sports was their only way out, rather than education. Ben Carson is the perfect example because his mother forced him to read and study math/science, instead of playing sports.
If they were aware of more positive role models outside athletes, entertainers, or rappers, it could at least make them aware that they have other options to improve their lives.
That explains many issues of the past and why many blacks were caught in a cycle of being poor and uneducated, but it's not as relevant in 2017.
Problems in the African American community are almost always the cause of the community as a whole.
A video was released a day or two ago with a 6-8yr old black child carrying a gun down the street in Chicago. That's not a white vs black problem. It's a scumbag community and non-existent parent problem.
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Gentrification takes care of it as such people get priced out and replaced by people who do take care of their surroundings. Those people generally have higher IQs and educational levels.
That doesn't really solve the problem. It just causes the people in the gentrified neighborhood to move elsewhere. Poor and uneducated people don't just disappear overnight.
It's starting to happen now. We're seeing cities recover but places like Detroit, Baltimore, and Chicago seem to still not recover from urban blight and other issues. I'm aware that people believe that the real problem with inner cities schools starts in the home. Parents who do not demand that their children tow the line or act with respect are the ones who do not do well. If they're not being held to high behavioral standard in schools and at home then it can transition into adulthood but why do you believe this happens in the first place especially in inner cities? If these cities have gone into such disrepair then why don't the residents in the city come together? What's stopping it? I don't think the bureaucrats are to blame entirely. Corruption and financial mismanagement could be an issue in some places but I wouldn't say it happens in every city. What gives?
Good topic.
Answer?
Victimhood.
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Yep. The Democratic party, a history of multi-generational welfare and social programs designed to tear up poor, minority families. Not to mention the racism of low expectations of both liberals, and self-serving black leaders who profit by telling poor blacks how incapable they are of making it on their own, without government help.
Winna winna chicken dinna.
Here's a related question... Why do the poorest people have the most junk laying around? Is it fear?
That explains many issues of the past and why many blacks were caught in a cycle of being poor and uneducated, but it's not as relevant in 2017.
Problems in the African American community are almost always the cause of the community as a whole.
A video was released a day or two ago with a 6-8yr old black child carrying a gun down the street in Chicago. That's not a white vs black problem. It's a scumbag community and non-existent parent problem.
That doesn't really solve the problem. It just causes the people in the gentrified neighborhood to move elsewhere. Poor and uneducated people don't just disappear overnight.
Many people are poor because they do not have a high enough IQ that allows them to compete in today's complex economy. I'm not sure what the solution can be other than some kind of basic income.
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