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Old 07-29-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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President Trump is fighting for his supporter with his tweets today. The Senate filibuster rule has to go !!!!

As the President said the Dems would change it in a heart beat if they could and will if they get in the position Repubs are now. They were the first to break the rule on appointments and they will ram down their policy's without regrets.
While their childish decision to play politics with our country may not come at a cost to them, they are selfishly hurting the millions of working Americans who voted for a new direction for our nation.

The GOP and McConnell are cowards and babies. What good is the rule if it blocks their ability to accomplish anything. They can do away with the rule and get done what the people elected them to get done.

Washington D.C. status quo IN BOTH PARTIES hate what President Trump is doing. Fighting for his supporters.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why does the filibuster rule need to go? Knowing that the longest filibuster was 24 hours, can you explain your position and the reason it needs to go?
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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The GOP agenda is stalled even though they have the presidency, house and senate. Trump is so inept that he cannot negotiate with congress to move things forward. What happened to the "great negotiator"? All he does is threaten/bully congress members that don't cave in to his demands. That attempt at strong-arming congress has failed.

He's such a failure that he's trying to change the rules rather than come up with better ways to negotiate in order to move forward.

He couldn't even get 50 GOP senators to agree on TrumpCare. He didn't understand the basic proposals enough to discuss them with the the Republicans in congress and negotiate. He doesn't know the difference between Medicaid and Medicare and thinks people pay $12/year to be on their employer's health insurance.

Congress is trying to figure out how to go forward with a mentally incapacited president that's more worried about getting his ego stroked than running the country. At this point, that's probably a good thing. Put him in the corner with a dunce hat and let him play on twitter, for the amusement of the world.

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Old 07-29-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Dim Trump doesn't realize that 60 votes are need to change the 60 vote rule.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...57113565163520
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:04 AM
 
Location: FL
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The GOP agenda is stalled even though they have the presidency, house and senate. Trump is so inept that he cannot negotiate with congress to move things forward. What happen to the great negotiator? All he does is threaten/bully congress members that don't cave in to his demands. That attempt of strong arming congress has failed.

He's such a failure that he's trying to change the rules rather than come up with better ways to negotiate in order to move forward.

He couldn't even get 50 GOP senators to agree on TrumpCare. He didn't understand the basic proposals enough to discuss them with the the Republicans in congress and negotiate. He doesn't know the difference between Medicaid and Medicare and thinks people pay $12/year to be on their employer's health insurance.

Congress is trying to figure out how to go forward with a mentally incapacited president that's more worried about getting his ego stroked than running the country. At this point, that's probably a good thing. Put him in the corner with a dunce hat and let him play on twitter, for the amusement of the world.
Well said.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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Dim Trump doesn't realize that 60 votes are need to change the 60 vote rule.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...57113565163520
Ha Ha Ha. One thing he got right in that tweet "A JOKE". He's the joke. Every single member of congress knows it, even those in his own party.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: London
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Oh no, the horror! Voting prevents one party from having absolute power of the country.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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President Trump is fighting for his supporter with his tweets today. The Senate filibuster rule has to go !!!!

As the President said the Dems would change it in a heart beat if they could and will if they get in the position Repubs are now. They were the first to break the rule on appointments and they will ram down their policy's without regrets.
While their childish decision to play politics with our country may not come at a cost to them, they are selfishly hurting the millions of working Americans who voted for a new direction for our nation.

The GOP and McConnell are cowards and babies. What good is the rule if it blocks their ability to accomplish anything. They can do away with the rule and get done what the people elected them to get done.

Washington D.C. status quo IN BOTH PARTIES hate what President Trump is doing. Fighting for his supporters.
Trump and yourself are wasting your breath. There are good reasons the filibuster rule exists. Democrats don't want 100% of republican legislation forced down their throats when they lose Congress. Republicans don't want 100% of democrat legislation forced down their throats when they lose Congress. It would lead to a very unstable country. One year, you might get a single payer health insurance plan passed into law. Four years later, another Congress might not only try to repeal that they might also try to repeal medicare.

The filibuster rule cushions the swing between political ideologies that occurs after an election. Its a good thing. The Founding Fathers gave us a two-house or bicameral legislature for a reason. George Washington saw the Senate as a "cooling saucer" where legislation passed by the House would "cool down" before automatically becoming law. The process is deliberately designed to slow the passage of legislation. Senators see that and have added the filibuster as a further refinement. National legislation requires more than a mere majority. It requires a true consensus and it should in many cases.

The funniest thing of all though is that our "brilliant" liar in chief doesn't seem to understand that he lost the health care vote even though it only took 50 (not sixty) votes to prevail. He should worry about getting a simple majority. No need to concern himself with sixty votes. It just isn't ever going to happen.

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Old 07-29-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The 60 vote threshold is what keeps either party from completely driving the country over a cliff. Without a more reasoned and deliberative body we might as well just have another 100 congressmen and be done with it.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The GOP agenda is stalled even though they have the presidency, house and senate. Trump is so inept that he cannot negotiate with congress to move things forward. What happened to the "great negotiator"? All he does is threaten/bully congress members that don't cave in to his demands. That attempt of strong arming congress has failed.

He's such a failure that he's trying to change the rules rather than come up with better ways to negotiate in order to move forward.

He couldn't even get 50 GOP senators to agree on TrumpCare. He didn't understand the basic proposals enough to discuss them with the the Republicans in congress and negotiate. He doesn't know the difference between Medicaid and Medicare and thinks people pay $12/year to be on their employer's health insurance.

Congress is trying to figure out how to go forward with a mentally incapacited president that's more worried about getting his ego stroked than running the country. At this point, that's probably a good thing. Put him in the corner with a dunce hat and let him play on twitter, for the amusement of the world.
McCain is inept. The closet democrat.
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