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This is a horrible analogy. Your neighbor's heroin can't kill anyone who doesn't do heroin. The same can't be said of her gun.
LOL your neighbors gun can't load a magazine chamber itself and kill someone. I've tried this, laid my every day carry on the table, insulted it, said some vile things about its mother it didn't do anything. Just laid there like the lazy piece of metal and polymer that it is. Same with that 1911. Called it a miserable old fool too heavy for its own good. Even talked crap to the bullets. Nope. It didn't do anything.
Your neighbor can kill someone with a gun, or with a hardcore drug. which would you rather push?
Hardcore drug or Guns?
Can you take game to feed yourself and your family with heroin?
Can you defend your life family and property with heroin?
Which would you rather spend your money on?
A drug that kills your vital organs clouds judgement and doesn't let go?
A pistol/rifle/shotgun box of ammo glasses hearing protection and targets?
Don't be silly. If a heroin addict had a gun, it would be likely sold or traded for their drug of choice.
Far more likely to try to walk out of Kohls with 3 Kitchen- aid Mismasters or steal from a relative.
No they wouldnt. My scumbag junkie cousin was quite successful with a butchers knife at getting money and items to pawn/trade for his habit. If he had a gun I'm sure he'd have used it to get what he wanted or shoot you as much as look at you for the money in your pocket.
Edit to add: They're not potheads who generally are harmless and just want to play video games and pig out. No way are junkies harmless. Spread disease with used needles and would do anything for their next score once they've become hooked.
I live near a heroin infested town and the crime is mostly theft. The junkies aren't committing violent crime against the normal citizens. There are some junkie on junkie assaults but the idea that they will kill you to get a fix is exaggerated. Heroin is a relatively cheap addiction so it's more of an endless cycle of trying to get $50/day.
I have been an on again/ off again volunteer at a hospital detox/ treatment center for too many years. I never met a violent heroin addict. Most might be inclined to steal my wallet out of my purse and then help me look for it.
Most don't have the physical strength to cause damage and a gun is worth money and dope costs money.
No they wouldnt. My scumbag junkie cousin was quite successful with a butchers knife at getting money and items to pawn/trade for his habit. If he had a gun I'm sure he'd have used it to get what he wanted or shoot you as much as look at you for the money in your pocket.
Edit to add: They're not potheads who generally are harmless and just want to play video games and pig out. No way are junkies harmless. Spread disease with used needles and would do anything for their next score once they've become hooked.
The more extreme prohibitionists paint the behavior of users, the more they make the case for decriminalization.
I know you should never say never, but treating the problem through the criminal justice system isn't working, never has worked, and never will work.
My oldest brother has been on Heroin for about 15 years. It all started with aback injury he had at work. They gave him pain pills and it went down hill from there. He began stealing from our family. Pawning everything. He eventually went to Prison. He came out clean. I gave him a job working for my business I own. Within 5 months he was back on it again.
We tried everything to get him help. He just doesn't want it. Some of these people just don't want to quit.
Your's is a too common story.
His life. His choices. His consequences. Respect this.
You/ your family did everything to help and probably then some.
Rehab/ treatment and prison tend, more often than not, to be the pause that refreshes. I have had more than one addict explain to me they need heroin the way a normie needs their next breath.
Opioids/ opiates rewire the brain to protect and sustain addiction.
I'd rather not take my chances being around people so desperate that they are willing to die for the drug. Which all heroin users risk every time they shoot up. If they don't care about their own lives why should they care about anyone else's. Junkies kill people by getting other people to try the stuff, they love having company in their addiction and lifestyle.
I am surprised how normal some heroin addicts actually look. One I know was a body builder. Last week I got the old gas station beggar, but he looked like a regular guy and his story was incredibly elaborate.
Most opiate/ opioid addicts do not want to share and do not recruit.
Many will strongly advise others from taking it up.
Most I have known know are reasonably articulate, persuasive and compelling in their manipulation of others.
Others have repeatedly hit what seems to be " rock bottom" only to keep on digging.
Has everyone forgotten that there are Federal laws making these drugs illegal including the sale and distribution of these drugs? Do you think the Federal government is going to sit on their hands and allow meth, heroin, and cocaine to be legalized at a state level?
Just because they choose to look the other way with pot, that doesn't mean they're going to do the same with harder drugs.
Contrary to the title of this thread, Oregon is not legalizing hard drugs. They seek to change their state Minimum Sentencing for first timers in posession of small quantities.
Contrary to the title of this thread, Oregon is not legalizing hard drugs. They seek to change their state Minimum Sentencing for first timers in posession of small quantities.
And make the penalties misdemeanors instead of felonies.
Its almost like no one actually reads the real data.
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which would you rather push? 
