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Originally Posted by T0103E
He said "I'll wear official badges and stamp my papers in a building downtown. That will make me as legit as the government you serve now."
You then said his little one man show doesn't make him a legitimate society.
So what are you even talking about? I suppose one person might not qualify as a "society", but that distracts from the main point - a group of people robbing someone isn't any different than an individual doing it.
And just how is a government acting in accordance with the laws of the land robbing anyone? What are you even talking about?
You can start by explaining how I understand the words.
I don't claim to know that. But my point was simply unless you're using a different definition of 'nation' than is commonly understood it conflicts directly with the definition of 'anarchy'. If you're meaning it as a amorphous geographic area of generally common language and culture then I guess I would need to apologize for mistaking you--though by that definition I would argue the US has several nations within it.
And just how is a government acting in accordance with the laws of the land robbing anyone? What are you even talking about?
I'll try to play interpreter here.
Robbery is an involuntary transaction often occurring with the threat of violence. Taxation is an involuntary tribute excised with an unstated consequence of violence if you do not pay. The difference is there is no expectation of goods provided by the robber (aside from preserving your health or life) while in theory you receive commensurate benefits for the income you were taxed.
And just how is a government acting in accordance with the laws of the land robbing anyone? What are you even talking about?
Robbery applies to everyone universally. It's still robbery even if a government law says they're allowed to do it.
If Bob is standing over there, and I go up and tell him to give me $10 or else, I'm robbing him. It's the same thing if I get a bunch of people together, we all call ourselves a government (or elect people to be the government), and we all tell him to cough up $10 or else...
Robbery is an involuntary transaction often occurring with the threat of violence. Taxation is an involuntary tribute excised with an unstated consequence of violence if you do not pay. The difference is there is no expectation of goods provided by the robber (aside from preserving your health or life) while in theory you receive commensurate benefits for the income you were taxed.
And I'd still call it extortion or theft if the robber gave me something in return.
Robbery is an involuntary transaction often occurring with the threat of violence. Taxation is an involuntary tribute excised with an unstated consequence of violence if you do not pay. The difference is there is no expectation of goods provided by the robber (aside from preserving your health or life) while in theory you receive commensurate benefits for the income you were taxed.
Yeah, slavery. LOL.
I mean...just parse that out logically and consistently and morally...step by step as you've correctly done...it's slavery.
Well, unless one of these brown shirts wants to give me a percentage to my (in)famous question:
If confiscation of 100% of the fruits of your labor at gunpoint is slavery (which they agree with) at what percentage does it cease to be slavery and furthermore who decides said percentage?
C'mon statists. It's Final Jeopardy...for all the marbles!
If confiscation of 100% of the fruits of your labor at gunpoint is slavery (which they agree with) at what percentage does it cease to be slavery and furthermore who decides said percentage?
Government does not exist to help with liberties and is not the enemy of liberties. The government functions within the boundaries set by the constitution and legislator. These two are responsible to keep people's liberties alive.
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