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Old 07-12-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006 View Post
Xenophobia and authoritarian police? No wonder the conservatives love Japan!

I suspect the love affair will come to an end as soon as the conservatives discover how hard it is to legally own a gun, and that Japan has universal health care (Oh noes, socialismmm ... gubmint gonna take ur money1!!!!!!!!1111)
The challenges associated with gun ownership in Japan preclude most from trying.

Generally speaking, the easier it is to acquire a firearm, legally or otherwise, the more violent the culture.

Although the gun homicide rate in Chicago does not make the top ten in the US, the absolute number of shootings and homicides is jaw dropping- even more so when one considers most of the shooting occurs in 5/25 Police Districts.

The cat has been out of the bag since the formation of the US. There's no turning back or evolving to a more peaceful country.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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You failed to mention the strong sense of civic duty. Compare Katrina to you know that small nuclear accident wear Japan had a reactor melt down. The Japanese were calm and orderly, helping one another. No looting, rapes, robberies or murders. As I said before, I wouldn't want to live there but it is nice to visit.
I have zero awareness of the political fallout within Japan, if any, that followed the nuclear reactor incident.

It would be a very different scenario in the US if something similar happened, here.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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But the ruling class which run America dont want to spend money on the homeless in America. They are lazy bums and takers, you know. The ruling class has presented a budget. No more spending on the homeless. On the contrary. Deep cuts for the people in need in America and massive tax breaks for the ruling class. So its obviously a false dichotomy. We can help support the refugee camps in neighboring countries. If we dont, not a dime will go to the homeless in America and you know it.
Once again you avoided answering the question. What is in it for the USA other than it might feel good?
We can change how we spend money here. How we spend money here has no bearing on why we should waste money on refugees. If people want to donate to a cause have a fund raiser. We did it for Haiti, Katrina, you name it. Hell there is a gofundme for a dog shot by the cops. If you feel so strongly about helping refugees go work in a refugee camp after doing fund raisers.
What comes to mind is Somalia. All the money the UN spent sending food there. All so the warlords could manage it. ie. keep it for themselves.
The greatest difference between you and I is that I believe charity should be voluntary and you feel it should be imposed. preferably on everyone else.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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Once again you avoided answering the question. What is in it for the USA other than it might feel good?
We can change how we spend money here. How we spend money here has no bearing on why we should waste money on refugees. If people want to donate to a cause have a fund raiser. We did it for Haiti, Katrina, you name it. Hell there is a gofundme for a dog shot by the cops. If you feel so strongly about helping refugees go work in a refugee camp after doing fund raisers.
What comes to mind is Somalia. All the money the UN spent sending food there. All so the warlords could manage it. ie. keep it for themselves.
Obviously, huge numbers of Syrians will die if no country offered any aid to the refugee camps. Most will try to desperately flee to Europe (not America, because America is protected by two oceans).

The people who control the tax money has made it perfectly clear that the people who suffer in America need to suffer much more. Deep cuts are being proposed for the elderly, the disabled and the homeless. Most right wingers enthusiastically voted for the puppets in Congress that push this agenda. So it is completely disingenuous to claim that it is a choice between homeless in America and refugee camps in Syria.
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Old 07-12-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Makes perfect sense to me. You take care of your own first. We do with our families, our country is our one big extended family. Bringing, allowing or having people sneak in people into a country that do not share the basic values of the citizens of that country is a recipe for destruction, and obviously, Japan is smart enough to realize that. You would think one wouldn't have to be that smart to get it, but........
Here's what immigration is about:

JEWISH GENOCIDE OF THE WHITE RACE – CASE CLOSED! – The Official Website Of Andrew Carrington Hitchcock


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQjipXVuBg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw5u883ypg4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ep-5af8nOk
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Old 07-12-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Not trying to be condescending but as a kid I grew up learning I shouldn't take what is not mine. If I have a neighbor who has a Mercedes and never uses it and doesn't know the value of it does it mean I have the right to steal it from him?
Well that's because you grew up in 21st century America. In the 21st century we have come to the conclusion that colonialism is bad. (This is an idea that, like slavery also being bad, is something that arose in the WEST).

Your analogy also fails because the owner of the Mercedes knows the value of the Mercedes and lives in the same realm and economy that you do. Imagine how dumb the Manhattan Indians must have thought the Dutch were for giving them all those valuable shells and trinkets for the useless and abundant land that would later become New York City!


But tell me, when you were growing up did anyone ever teach you that you should pay and be held accountable for what your great-great-great...grandfather did?
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Old 07-12-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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I'll admit.


I giggle snorted.
All facts.

All documented.
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Old 07-12-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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I'll admit.


I giggle snorted.

Do you deny the authenticity of what was posted? If so, present evidence to demonstrate that there was never any writing implemented by Mr. Kalergi espousing the ideal of a Europe cleansed of its indigenous ethnic and cultural diversity?
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Old 07-12-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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Thank you for being honest. Sterotyping is acceptable to you. I assume that you have no issue with profiling then?
I agree with the rest of your post. I would add that the Japanese are not especially fond of the other Asian races either. They look at them for want of a better term a servant class, or second class Asians. This was actually explained to me by a manager we had from Japan. He wasn't especially fond of his own country as he was mixed race.
Basically my main point is, right wingers want to take the most right wing aspects of Japan and apply it to the US when both countries are very incompatible. Take for example our legal system. Our Western liberal democracy says the state has to prove your guilt in a court of law. In Japan, you have to prove to the state you are innocent.
But in any case, I agree with Japan and don't want any Muslim refugees either, period. And I'm of Japanese descent as well, not that it matters IMO

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Old 07-12-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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Japan. One of the safest, most interesting cultures in the world and one of the most civilized nations in the world is really going to miss out on the benefits of multiculturalism and mass immigration. lol

Japan accepted 11 asylum seekers last year. 11

“I would say that before accepting immigrants or refugees we need to have more activities by women, by elderly people and we must raise (the) birth rate. There are many things that we should do before accepting immigrants”

– Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

https://twitter.com/attn/status/867437179173126145


"One woman describes how five officers crowded into her cramped apartment after she reported her knickers being swiped from a clothesline.

A small army of detectives was assigned last year to apprehend a group of 22 people who had been growing marijuana for their personal use only and smoking it in deserted rural spots.

In fact, as the police run out of things to do, they are becoming more inventive about what constitutes a crime, says Kanako Takayama of Kyoto University. In one recent case, she says, they arrested a group of people who had shared the cost of renting a car, deeming the arrangement an illegal taxi.

So what's your hardon for Japan all about? So please tell us just how many of these same type of immigrants were allowed into other places like for instance: North Korea? South Korea, China, Russia, Taiwan.....just to name a few.
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