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Old 07-14-2017, 02:24 AM
 
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https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/...sp?current=yes

It certainly has become fashionable in today's society for poor women to have baby after baby after baby. The rate of free and reduced lunch has gone from 38% since 2000 to 52% today and from 17 million to 25 million.

If America would be smart they would eliminate all welfare programs for poverty families with children and allocate the incentives to upper-middle class and rich so they increase their birth rates.

Personally, the government if it were intelligent would have incentives for the upper-middle class and wealthy to have children and eliminate all welfare programs for poor families who have children.

The solution to this issue is to eliminate section 8, EBT, TANF and child-care assistance for poor families with children and have tax credits for the upper-middle class and rich to have more children!

If the government wanted our next generation to pay all the liabilities with as SS and Medicare they would have free childcare and allocate lots of educational resources to rich families with children and eliminate all programs that benefit the poor millennial families who decide to have poverty babies.


Texas went from 44% to 59%
California from 47% to 59%
Florida 44% to 58%
Nevada from 33% to 52%

I notice that the middle-class have less and less kids. Under Obama, it basically became a fashion statement for poor women to have as many babies as they could to cash in the luxurious safety-net expansions under Obama.

It will certainly be interesting in 20 years when the baby boomers are basically a relying on this generation where the majority are born to parents with such low income that they are eligible for free and reduced lunch.

Basically, while the number of births to middle-class and wealthy has been decreasing. The poor women have been having incredible amounts of children they can't afford since 2000. A total of 8 million more children are on free and reduced lunch as opposed to 2000.
You know you are a horrible person, right? We don't starve little kids in this country just because their parents are irresponsible.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:34 AM
 
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Medicaid also pays for premature births when insurance companies refuse or delay. They helped me when my son was born at 29 weeks and resulted in a $298k bill. He was covered with two separate insurance policies, mine and my husband's. They left us hanging, and Medicaid stepped in. We're not poor and would not have qualified if it were not for my son's low birth weight. I'm not dependent, never have been. I was responsibly insured and it still wasn't enough. That's what a safety net is for. But all you guys want to see is the worst of people.
48% of births aren't premature.

Sorry, but it is what it is... 48% of all US births are paid for by Medicaid, the health program for the poor. The dependent class is growing, exponentially, and the contributor class is shrinking. The US is like a dying star in the universe.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:44 AM
 
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48% of births aren't premature.

Sorry, but it is what it is... 48% of all US births are paid for by Medicaid, the health program for the poor. The dependent class is growing, exponentially, and the contributor class is shrinking. The US is like a dying star in the universe.
15% of births are premature. Also another 2% of full-term babies end up in NICU that qualifies the baby, not the mother for Medicaid due to disability benefits applied. But I'm not going to judge others who use Medicaid because I don't know their circumstances and will not judge until I have some facts. But I can well imagine given the lack of legislation for hourly workers who are pregnant, many lose their jobs in the 3rd trimester and must turn to Medicaid to help until they can get another job after baby arrives. I can conjecture several other scenarios that don't fall into your very wide net of the great downfall of United States because of poor people. I told you my story to hopefully encourage you to put down your incredibly large brush you're painting all Medicaid recipients with.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:48 AM
 
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15% of births are premature. Also another 2% of full-term babies end up in NICU that qualifies the baby, not the mother for Medicaid due to disability benefits applied. But I'm not going to judge others who use Medicaid because I don't know their circumstances and will not judge until I have some facts. But I can well imagine given the lack of legislation for hourly workers who are pregnant, many lose their jobs in the 3rd trimester and must turn to Medicaid to help until they can get another job after baby arrives. I can conjecture several other scenarios that don't fall into your very wide net of the great downfall of United States because of poor people. I told you my story to hopefully encourage you to put down your incredibly large brush you're painting all Medicaid recipients with.
However it happens, what's your suggestion for financially supporting a population in which 48% start out so poor, they need hand-outs? How does all that financial support get funded?
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:55 AM
 
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However it happens, what's your suggestion for financially supporting a population in which 48% start out so poor, they need hand-outs? How does all that financial support get funded?
Dear God. What if we would just let you off the hook for all of your federal income tax forever. Would that satisfy you? Or do you just hate the poor?
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Old 07-14-2017, 03:36 AM
 
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Dear God. What if we would just let you off the hook for all of your federal income tax forever. Would that satisfy you? Or do you just hate the poor?
Most conservatives seem to just hate the poor. But don't want to pay a living wage.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:24 AM
 
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Stop killing babies and selling their tiny brains, lungs, etc. and the funding will come back.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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Dear God. What if we would just let you off the hook for all of your federal income tax forever. Would that satisfy you? Or do you just hate the poor?
How does that answer the question? What's your suggestion for financially supporting a population in which 48% start out so poor, they need hand-outs? How does all that financial support get funded?

The dependent class is growing exponentially, while the contributor class is shrinking. The US is like a dying star in the universe.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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48% of births aren't premature.

Sorry, but it is what it is... 48% of all US births are paid for by Medicaid, the health program for the poor. The dependent class is growing, exponentially, and the contributor class is shrinking. The US is like a dying star in the universe.
so educated them-give them jobs and low heathcare---simple- the American dream
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:04 AM
 
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so educated them-give them jobs and low heathcare---simple- the American dream
Educate them, how? Liberals and their anti-excellence, anti-intellectual "equal outcomes" SJW takeover of our country's public schools have been dumbing down the populace for at least 2 generations.

How?

Read and learn...

A college professor has done the research, and tells us what has happened and why...

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"While students in the bottom quartile have shown slow but steady improvement since the 1960s, average test scores have nonetheless gone down, primarily because of the performance of those in the top quartile. This "highest cohort of achievers," Rudman writes, has shown "the greatest declines across a variety of subjects as well as across age-level groups." Analysts have also found "a substantial drop among those children in the middle range of achievement"

...The contrast was stark: schools that had "severely declining test scores" had "moved determinedly toward heterogeneous grouping" (that is, mixed students of differing ability levels in the same classes), while the "schools who have maintained good SAT [Stanford Achievement Test, for grades K-12] scores" tended "to prefer homogeneous grouping [ability/skill-level grouping, aka tracking]."

If attaining educational excellence is this simple, why have these high-quality schools become so rare? The answer lies in the cultural ferment of the 1960s.

THE INCUBUS OF THE SIXTIES

In every conceivable fashion the reigning ethos of those times was hostile to excellence in education. Individual achievement fell under intense suspicion, as did attempts to maintain standards. Discriminating among students on the basis of ability or performance was branded "elitist." Educational gurus of the day called for essentially nonacademic schools, whose main purpose would be to build habits of social cooperation and equality rather than to train the mind."
The Other Crisis in American Education - The Atlantic

Much more at the link.

Note that not only is our population largely unable to think anymore due to the large-scale dumbing-down of our country's public education system, but the "equal outcomes disdain for excellence" education ideology failed to accomplish its social cooperation and cohesion goal, as well.

This is the quintessential, most epic failure of the SJW mentality, and it has done irreparable harm to our country. The result? Less than half of US high school graduates are proficient in 12th grade math and reading skills:

Percent of 12th grade students of each race/ethnicity who are proficient or above:

Mathematics:

Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 33%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 12%
Hispanic: 12%
Black: 7%

Reading:

Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 47%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 26%
Hispanic: 23%
Black: 16%

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/re...th_g12_2013/#/
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