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Old 07-15-2017, 02:19 AM
 
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A few bad apples. Right?
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Old 07-15-2017, 02:58 AM
 
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Bakersfield cops may need to get their eyes checked on this one.
That's going to require more training and who do you think is going to pay for that training.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:18 AM
 
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That's going to require more training and who do you think is going to pay for that training.
We may need better training BUT no amount of training is needed for officers to know better than to lie on reports.

I support paying for better training if needed but with that has to come a higher level of responsibility and accountability.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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We may need better training BUT no amount of training is needed for officers to know better than to lie on reports.

I support paying for better training if needed but with that has to come a higher level of responsibility and accountability.
I think a complete overhaul in culture is needed, which includes better training. The culture of police corruption in this country has always been there, just has become less blatant. The question is why we accept it as common practice in criminal justice but not in, say, health care.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:29 AM
 
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As a point of contrast, let's look at how this 18 year old white teen was treated as she resisted arrest, assaulted police officers and was generally rude and was generally uncooperative.

A Girl Claimed She Was Sexually Assaulted By Police, So the Police Chief Fought Back With Bodycam Footage
Well well. This girl was not punched, she did not have a gun drawn on her, nor did a dog get sicced on her.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Well well. This girl was not punched, she did not have a gun drawn on her, nor did a dog get sicced on her.
yup, and she even grabbed the bong the poice confiscated during the confrontation and came out unscathed.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:58 AM
 
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The police in our territory are so much more intelligent and exercise thought when approaching suspects. It is clear to me that race has much to do with how some police officers behave on the mainland. Unfortunately, they tend to have support when they are wrong, so they never improve.

This gives me an even greater appreciation for our police force than I already have. I can confidently say that had this young lady had been down here, this would not have happened to her.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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The police in our territory are so much more intelligent and exercise thought when approaching suspects. It is clear to me that race has much to do with how some police officers behave on the mainland. Unfortunately, they tend to have support when they are wrong, so they never improve.

This gives me an even greater appreciation for our police force than I already have. I can confidently say that had this young lady had been down here, this would not have happened to her.
I've noticed in the West Indies police are held to a higher standard (depending on the country, obviously), and in turn they demand/create much more respect than here in the U.S. It's more of a two-way street.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:16 AM
 
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I've noticed in the West Indies police are held to a higher standard (depending on the country, obviously), and in turn they demand/create much more respect than here in the U.S. It's more of a two-way street.
Well, I live in U.S. territory in the Caribbean but that likely is the case overall. Things like this are extremely uncommon. I can say that the police down here deal with a lot, often more than many officers in the States. Yet, they do not seem to make such grave errors.

It is a blessing to live in a place where the racial component is removed. One can see the difference. This would not have happened here...no way. But if somehow it did, people would raise hell.

On the other hand, those officers who do things like this in the States are generally confident that they will receive ample support despite poor performance on the job.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:23 AM
 
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Just throwing this up for discussion. If the girl identified as a male, the police would HAVE to stop and question her/him because they would otherwise be guilty of discriminating against her/him.
What if she identified as a six foot male? Height shouldn't be any different than gender. Or weight for that matter.
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