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Old 07-13-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Ask trump voters.
No Un-educated would be this guy...

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Old 07-13-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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Gun Control: The ability to hit your intended target.


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Old 07-13-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Oh look, another liberal still crying over the election.
Trump is the one who said he liked uneducated voters, not me. Keep the kool aid flowing.
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Trump is the one who said he liked uneducated voters, not me. Keep the kool aid flowing.
Trump allegedly was going to pass this which was leaked however needs revisions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER

– – – – – – –

DESIGNATION OF MILITIA RIFLES

By the authority vested in me as President and Commander in Chief of the Militia by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to ensure the ability of citizens of the United States to defend themselves, their communities and their States, as well as to ensure the safety and security of our Nation, I hereby order as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. Both individual and community safety are critically important to the national security of the United States. Terrorism, transnational criminal activity and potential acts of war by foreign nations present a significant threat to national security and our citizens, who have the right and the duty to defend themselves, their communities, their States and the Nation.

Section 2. Policy. It is the policy of the executive branch to:

(a) Support and defend the Constitution, including the Second Amendment right of citizens to keep and bear arms for Militia purposes,as well asself-defense.

(b) Encourage citizens to be prepared to act as members of the Militia to defend communities, States and the Nation, as part of the common defense contemplated by the Constitution of the United States.

(c) Discourage restrictions by States and political subdivisionson individual possession of firearms suitable for Militia purposes by citizens of the United States.

Section 3. Definitions.

(a) “Militia” has the meaning given the term in Title 10, Section 311 of the United States Code to include the Unorganized Militia, as well as the meaning given to the term “Militia” under equivalent State statutes.

(b) “Self-Defense” shall mean the actions of citizens to defend themselves and their families from physical attack.

(c) “Communities” shall mean neighborhoods, towns, cities, counties and other political subdivisions of citizens who live in distinct geographic areas within a State.

(d) “State” shall mean one of the fifty States of the United States.

(e) “Militia Purposes” shall mean training, practice and preparedness which could improve the ability of a citizen to act,and to be armed in case of a need to act, as a current or future member of a local, State or National organization commanded by government officials and responsive to a physical threat. Appropriate organizations include those commanded by an elected county or city Sheriff; those commanded by the Governor of a State through officers of that State’s Defense Force as authorized by Title 30, Section 109 of the United States Code, or through officers of that State’s National Guard;and organizations commanded by the President through officers of the Active or Reserve components of U.S. Armed Forces.

(f) “Militia Rifles” shall mean the firearms designated in Section 4 that are made in America and suitable for use in self-defense, community defense, defense of States and defense of the Nation.

Section 4. Designation of Militia Rifles. That the following firearms and accessories are authorized and appropriate for individual citizens to keep and bear for Militia purposes under the Constitution and the laws of the United States:

(a) The AR-15 and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, magazines of up to thirty round capacities, M-7 bayonets, and ammunition in 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington, in all quantities.

(b) The M1A and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs,magazines of up to twenty round capacities, M-6 bayonets, and ammunition in 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester, in all quantities.

(c) The M1 Garand and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, M-5 bayonets, and ammunition in.30-’06 Springfield, in all quantities.

(d) Bolt action rifles in the calibers of .30-’06 Springfield; 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester; 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington; or any substantially equivalent caliber, and ammunition appropriate for the rifles, in any quantity.

(This list could be expanded or replaced by a broad definition)

Section 5. Pre-emption. This Executive Order is intended to pre-empt the laws of States or political subdivisions that infringe upon the rights of citizens to keep and bear the arms designated in Section 4.

Section 6. Judicial Notice. That the judges of all State and Federal Courts are hereby given notice that possession of the designated Militia Rifles and accessories by citizens should not be restricted or infringed upon by State laws or the laws of a political subdivision of a State and any such law should be reviewed under the strict scrutiny standard to determine whether it is a violation of the Constitution of the United States after judicial consideration of this Order and the fact that it was issued by the Commander in Chief of the Militia.

Donald J. Trump

THE WHITE HOUSE

March __, 2017
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Austin
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They lose the element of surprise for

1. Suppressors add length to the weapon. You can't tuck a pistol in your waistband with a can attached to the barrel and readily pull it.

2. They still go, bang! Not like in Hollywood movies.

3. They make a gun run dirtier causing jams and failures to cycle properly.

4. They can inhibit aim due to the fact they need volume to absorb spent gasses be it long and skinny, short and fat. Wet or dry element. Look at mufflers on 3/4 ton gasoline powered pickups. If they aren't the size of a half keg of beer, they're long and skinny. Same applies with suppressors.

Look at the construction of a muffler. Baffles that either redirect the waves to cancel each other out-chambered muffler
Or a tube with holes cut leading gases to an absorbent material-glasspacks steel packed mufflers.
Baffle? How about you not baffle them with facts. Facts make them question and questions make them uncomfortable and when they're uncomfortable they get angry and they just shout louder,
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL
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The important thing is that no one needs a gun with the shoulder thing that goes up.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Baffle? How about you not baffle them with facts. Facts make them question and questions make them uncomfortable and when they're uncomfortable they get angry and they just shout louder,
That's the point...

To prove them wrong factually and intellectually then open their narrow minded perception up. AKA Woke.

I've spent years in NY arguing said to hell with it. No more paying ridiculous taxes and having freedoms stripped. Texas or Florida and Florida it was.

I pose this in all seriousness.
How about we drag every other amendment through the mud like we do with the 2nd.

You need a permit and a background check to exercise your freedom of speech and we will limit what words you can use. Unless you are of a privileged few that can pay a 200 dollar tax and have documentation of that prohibited word to be used. And limit the words used to pre 1986 only and create a registry of the words, and the people who can afford each word to the tune of thousands to ten thousands... words and phrases like on fleek and others that have become popular?

How about you can't get a lawyer without passing a background check? How about we subject you to cruel and unusual punishment without a permit background check or tax stamp. How about abortion? How about any of the other hot topics up for debate in the USA politics and daily life?

I'm being as serious as a heart attack here. Why the incessant fear of guns? Apply that logic to everything else that this country stands for we become Maos China, Stalins Russia, Castros Cuba...
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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Suppressors would make shooting on the range safer. With the current ear muff silencers, it can be difficult to hear the "cease fire". With suppressors, you would be able to hear the range officer easier. And they are not like the "silencers" in the movies. Those are complete fiction.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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The important thing is that no one needs a gun with the shoulder thing that goes up.
What are you talking about? Shoulder thing that goes up?
Collapsible stocks?
Stabilizing braces?

As a matter of fact yes people do. My mother and little sister can only safely handle my ARs and AK with Collapsible stocks. Their arms aren't nearly as long as mine and need them collapsed to safely and proficiently use them. Other wise they would not be able to have a sight picture and the barrel would be nose heavy by only having the ability to grip the magazine/magazine well.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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What are you talking about? Shoulder thing that goes up?
Collapsible stocks?
Stabilizing braces?

As a matter of fact yes people do. My mother and little sister can only safely handle my ARs and AK with Collapsible stocks. Their arms aren't nearly as long as mine and need them collapsed to safely and proficiently use them. Other wise they would not be able to have a sight picture and the barrel would be nose heavy by only having the ability to grip the magazine/magazine well.
Barrel Shroud.
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