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Old 07-14-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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And it does not matter who, or where the dirt comes from, as long as the evidence is there before it is published.

Obama got all kinda dirt on McCain from very high level foreign governments.
Obama had the NSA listening to everything Romney and had all his IRS records to comb through.

It does not matter who or where it is obtained, because wiretapping and gathering intelligence and spying is now legal. If it were not, so many people in both parties would be doing the perp walk.
And?

I don't give a **** if it's legal or not. If my president is trading secrets with Russia, I want to know. To quote Nixon, "I welcome this kind of examination, because people have got to know whether or not their president's a crook." Ignoring how that turned out, he's right. The American people deserve to know if anything happened. Frankly, I don't care where it leaves Trump. Impeached, not impeached; I'll deal with either. I want to know what Russia has, why they have it, and how we can stop it.
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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So your code of ethics is NO ethics whatsoever. I'm not surprised.

To think that Hillary and Obama haven't done this is extremely naïve.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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Words have meaning. You added Campaign this time.
How is it a crime, to have contact with a Russian. Even a Russian Official in the normal business of a campaign and the ability for every campaign to gain opposition dirt. Some campaigns get other people to actually pay for it, so their campaign cannot be fingered. Like McCain did from a foreign government for Clinton and the fake Dossier that started Pee-Peegate, he paid over 50 million for.
Words do have meaning. It's ALWAYS been about the Campaign. The people who leave off "campaign" are attempting misdirection.

The investigation is to determine if a crime occurred.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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To think that Hillary and Obama haven't done this is extremely naïve.
Actually, it's not.

People who've spent their lives in political service actually understand that when a campaign is approached by persons on behalf of foreign governments, that such contacts get reported to the FBI.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Beach Sportsfan View Post
Well if it's not illegal, the Trump, Trumpito and the rest have nothing to worry about.

The fact the story keeps changing and that they tried to hide it and now trying to spin it, says they don't feel that way.

The fact that so many of the Kool Aid group keeps trying to make different excuses for it, says otherwise.

There is more coming so keep drinking and start making more excuses

If you would read and comprehend the definition of "Treason" and "Collusion" then you would understand why the Jr. meeting is nothing...even if he got the "dirt" on Hillary...it's no where in anyway comes close to the definition of collusion and damn sure not anywhere near the treason definition.....
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:14 AM
 
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Political operatives meet with spies from adversary nations all the time in efforts to get dirt and undermine US elections. It happens all the time and is normal according to Donald J Trump.

PROBLEM IS - THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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What did jr solicit? Agreed, but what did jr solicit? And are you admitting that the Clintons did it also?
When you are out on a limb as far as you are with Trump, your only refuge is deflection. We get that you aren't going to address the topic at hand - because you can't.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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When you are out on a limb as far as you are with Trump, your only refuge is deflection. We get that you aren't going to address the topic at hand - because you can't.
I have addressed the question, what has NOT happened is the left has not be able to provide and answer...maybe you can help them, they sure need something....
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Political operatives meet with spies from adversary nations all the time in efforts to get dirt and undermine US elections. It happens all the time and is normal according to Donald J Trump.

PROBLEM IS - THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So, an official of the DNC using a Ukraine official to go through Russia to get dirt on trump, is just fine and dandy....yes?
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Boston
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the DNC just paid a company to dig up dirt on Trump less than a year ago ..... so what?
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