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Old 07-13-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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It is a crime to obstruct justice; it is a crime to interfere with elections. THATs the issue. Stop dreaming about what Hillary of Obama did....reality is what reality is. trump campaign worked with Russia to win the election.
If it is a crime to interfere with elections, That's the issue, then why didn't CNN and MSNBC put in even just 10% of the coverage they are now doing on Trump, on Hillary Clinton last year using the DMC unfairly against Bernie Sanders or unfairly getting help from a CNN employee?

There seems to be a double standard here.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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Well, you are certainly welcome to your opinion which seems to be based on your blind adherence to Trump and Fox and Friends. Wanna give us any cite to back up your statements? No? Because you can't?

Picture this: A lawyer affiliated with ISIS approaches Chelsea Clinton with the information that she has the goods on Trump - stuff that will cost him the election if it comes to light. Chelsea responds in an email, "Great if this is what you say it is. Would be terrific later on in the summer!" When this comes to light after Hillary is elected president, the Clintons and their core simply shrug their shoulders and say, "That's politics for you." Meanwhile, Hillary continues to praise the leader of ISIS to the skies, and repeatedly tweets out midnight messages to the nation accusing Fox of reporting fake news.

You'd be just fine with that, eh?

Liar!
The greater point is Hillary would get away with it. Her criminal behavior always gets a pass.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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And it does not matter who, or where the dirt comes from, as long as the evidence is there before it is published.

Obama got all kinda dirt on McCain from very high level foreign governments.
Obama had the NSA listening to everything Romney and had all his IRS records to comb through.

It does not matter who or where it is obtained, because wiretapping and gathering intelligence and spying is now legal. If it were not, so many people in both parties would be doing the perp walk.
Au contraire.

It is, in fact, a crime, even if you only believe it is a crime when a Dem does it.

52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510

"...Summer 2016, a top Hillary Clinton staffer gets a message: “A Miss Universe contestant — Miss Slovakia — says that Donald Trump had sexually harassed her. Would you like to get her story?” The staffer says, “I’d love to,” and indeed gets the information, which he then uses in the campaign....What’s more, this would apply not just to foreigners who live abroad. If a Slovakian college student who is studying in the United States called the Clinton campaign with such information, that would be a crime. If the Clinton campaign heard that Mar-a-Lago was employing illegal immigrants in Florida and staffers went down to interview the workers, that would be a crime...

...A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election...No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by [this law]...”


https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Oh, but in THIS instance it is!

People pay a lot of money for 'information' about others during a campaign.

Information is 'value'.

It's against the law to take something of value from a foreign government to progress any political campaign.
Even by your own silly interpretation of "value" Trump Jr. is guilty of nothing because he wasn't given any dirt on Hillary. And he paid nothing.

You people need to get a grip because right now Democrats look totally ridiculous.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What you are saying, then, is it's alright for foreign governments to interfere in our elections.

Is that REALLY what you believe?!?!?

I thought it was the liberals who wanted to destroy our country and constitution!

That's what "many people" are saying, anyway.

If they are not changing votes, in the ballot boxes... I'm good!
They(all foreign nations and powers) have been involved in our business and who is in power here in this leadership of the world, since George Washington was being thought of and John Adams campaigning. Every election we have had since, has had foreign influence in one way or another. You gonna deny it?

Now, come to me with votes were changed, or ballots destroyed, ballots missing, fake ballots and any form of actual election fraud, we can talk.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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People lie under oath when they are trying to hide affairs.

Politicians get dirt on their opponents.

Water is wet.

Stay tuned for tomorrow when we discuss the fact that really really tall people can dunk a basketball.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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The greater point is Hillary would get away with it. Her criminal behavior always gets a pass.
You're literally arguing that it's okay for your political party and its members to break laws and engage in otherwise unpatriotic and immoral behavior because you're under the belief that someone else got away with it too.
I seriously didn't realize the level of mental illness in America until now. Cult behavior is a mental illness. At the very least, not a single one of you can ever again claim to give a crap about the United States of America. Your loyalty is not to your country. It's to a single man. As a liberal, I'd throw Hillary under the bus immediately if her administration was engaging in this stuff. Immediately and without hesitation.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Oh, but in THIS instance it is!

People pay a lot of money for 'information' about others during a campaign.

Information is 'value'.

It's against the law to take something of value from a foreign government to progress any political campaign.


I have only heard of John McCain paying for information.... On Trump.
Show me record of Trump, or anyone in his campaign, paying for dirt on Hillary or her campaign......
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by Colorado Rambler View Post
Well, you are certainly welcome to your opinion which seems to be based on your blind adherence to Trump and Fox and Friends. Wanna give us any cite to back up your statements? No? Because you can't?

Picture this: A lawyer affiliated with ISIS approaches Chelsea Clinton with the information that she has the goods on Trump - stuff that will cost him the election if it comes to light. Chelsea responds in an email, "Great if this is what you say it is. Would be terrific later on in the summer!" When this comes to light after Hillary is elected president, the Clintons and their core simply shrug their shoulders and say, "That's politics for you." Meanwhile, Hillary continues to praise the leader of ISIS to the skies, and repeatedly tweets out midnight messages to the nation accusing Fox of reporting fake news.

You'd be just fine with that, eh?

Liar!
Picture this: you made up a hypothetical scenario, so it's hard to take it - or your point about what MIGHT have been IF.. - very seriously.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Fake news.
If only it where.
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