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Old 07-15-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
I feel that we are living a double standard here.

The Republican Trumps are being accused of collusion with the Russians to win the election which to many is a crime yet I feel if the Democrats had done the same thing it would be called Politics.
In the Russian economy the state still owns the defense industry and the energy industry. This government ownership of major industries is much closer to true Socialism than you Trumpkins would feel comfortable with.

That being said, collusion with what is still a Socialist state would get you Trumpkins the label Commie lover. We Democrats know that you wouldn't be able to stomach that after calling us that for generations.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The Democrats didn`t do the same thing so your post is pointless.
Yes, they did. Funneling hundreds of millions of dollars thru the "Clinton foundation". Saudi Arabia "Donated" up to $25 million..you dont think that might influence her?
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Maine
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It is and was illegal......



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
I cut and pasted this from the other thread that you tucked your tail and ran away from.

LOL your pinning your desperate hopes on a 1799 law that no one has ever been found guilty of.
Good luck with that.

The Logan act on its face is unconstitutional, and would not survive the first day in a court of law.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...lynn-or-anyone

Do you even read the nonsense you post?


RR
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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If you read the various definitions of collusion, you will see that it can be illegal or legal, depending on the situation. There clearly was collusion between Jr. and the Russians. That doesn't mean that it was illegal. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. There seem to be arguments for both, but that is for the real lawyers to decide. Not a bunch of armchair lawyers on CD.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Trumpers love to point out that collusion is not a crime and a big nothing burger.

Okay if it is as you say it is why doesn't Trump admit collusion and end all these investigations into collusion.

What does he have to lose? Jared, Don Jr, and all those dragged into this investigation would end except for all their lies or cover-ups made during the course of the investigations.

We can all guess that with all this drip, drip, drip, that it is only a matter of time before
Trump himself is implicated.

So why delay?

Admit it and get it over with.

Talking to so many people and in the moment of a very wild west campaign, while never being a politician and very uneducated how it suppose to work.

I bet no one even thought of keeping a log of who you said hello to and who they are. I would never have thought of it, not being in politics or ever running for office. Because it really is no ones business, not even governments, to the extent anyone sacrifices their 1st, 4th and 5th amendment rights.
It is against 4th amendment rights for government to listen in on any communications. Can't punish for talking, nor punished for not talking.

It would not even have crossed my mind, that I needed to keep a log of all my contacts to give to my Master.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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It's not collusion but a meeting. Now if this meeting is an example of collusion then the former AG needs to be investigate for collusion with Bill Clinton and Comey.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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None of his family have lied, but you people certainly do love to ignore Hillary's many lies, including her Benghazi lies, email lies, lies about the "pay for play" scheme, etc, etc, etc.

You people have lost all credibility, and your party is in meltdown.
9 Benghazi investigations found no wrong doing. Do you want 9 more? If only you cared as much about the 4,500 who died looking for wmds.... 4,500 vs. 4 at Benghazi. See the difference?
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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If you read the various definitions of collusion, you will see that it can be illegal or legal, depending on the situation. There clearly was collusion between Jr. and the Russians. That doesn't mean that it was illegal.
When the Russians hacked the DNC servers that's a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, a felony. Possession and dissemination of stolen data is also a violation. If the Trump campaign worked with the Russians or WikiLeaks on when, how and where to release the data, that would make the Trump campaign people accessories and/or co-conspirators to the CFAA felonies.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When the Russians hacked the DNC servers that's a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, a felony. Possession and dissemination of stolen data is also a violation. If the Trump campaign worked with the Russians or WikiLeaks on when, how and where to release the data, that would make the Trump campaign people accessories and/or co-conspirators to the CFAA felonies.

Only if that were true.

The DNC destroyed their servers. No one got to even look at them. It is Hearsay.


Investigate Seth Rich if you want to know the truth of the leaked communications.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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I guess that explains why 17 lawyers are investigating it.
Not just 17 lawyers, some of the highest profile lawyers and investigators ever assembled. It's the Avengers team of lawyers on this case.
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