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Old 11-21-2017, 04:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Town FFX View Post
Note that THEY are the ONLY ones pushing for this. Despite people from all over the country petitioning NOT to get NN, they say *********, taxpayer and do what will line their pockets the best. They don't give a crap about what people want.


I really don't think it is a GOP issue alone either. Something like 80% of all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, support NN. This is really a move by the elites over us plebs. Information and control over the distribution channels is the new oil. The elite are trying to force us into a modern Gilded Age, where instead of banking, oil, and steel our overlords now have control over the internet and the flow of information. This is absolutely infuriating, and expect bills to go up by thousands of dollars over your lifetime. The GOP is literally handing the Dems a golden platter and they could campaign this issue alone, which doesn't even make sense since the vast majority of GOP voters also support NN (despite what a few hacks on CD shout).

 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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I agree to a point. The problem is that lots of the Internet infrastructure was built by companies looking to invest to make a profit. Building fiber plant is very expensive. So along comes Netflix and uses about a third of the capacity of that plant. So let's say you build and open a store. Netflix comes along and demands one third of your floor space with no compensation to you. Remember, there is ongoing cost to maintaining a wired plant which is why google, Verizon att and many municipal plants have failed. Even if the government backs the cost of laying the wire, it's still costly.
Once 5G rolls out though the model with change. its why Verizon offered north of 100 billion for Charter

Netflix pays for West it uses. You might not be aware of that.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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I really don't think it is a GOP issue alone either. Something like 80% of all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, support NN. This is really a move by the elites over us plebs. Information and control over the distribution channels is the new oil. The elite are trying to force us into a modern Gilded Age, where instead of banking, oil, and steel our overlords now have control over the internet and the flow of information. This is absolutely infuriating, and expect bills to go up by thousands of dollars over your lifetime. The GOP is literally handing the Dems a golden platter and they could campaign this issue alone, which doesn't even make sense since the vast majority of GOP voters also support NN (despite what a few hacks on CD shout).
I agree with all of that.

Got a laugh out of this:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...08358508167168
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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Here's the deal, no competition in broadband in most areas. You either need net neutrality and a dumb pipe or force reselling similar to pots. **** these companies that think they should be able to shape traffic and control what you do with your bandwidth especially since most of them are virtually monopolies.

Free market my ass.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: USA
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The ISPs have been passing legislation for years to make competition exorbitantly expensive or flat-out illegal, and now they're going to start charging content providers for the privilege of reaching you. But it's OK because it's going to be a "free" market now!

Should the FCC get rid of phone regulations too, i.e. filter your phone calls and charge you/them for access or preferred audio quality?
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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The ISPs have been passing legislation for years to make competition exorbitantly expensive or flat-out illegal, and now they're going to start charging content providers for the privilege of reaching you. But it's OK because it's going to be a "free" market now!

Should the FCC get rid of phone regulations too, i.e. filter your phone calls and charge you/them for access or preferred audio quality?
Or, they could charge the caller based on the priority/person you're calling.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:41 PM
 
Location: NYC
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...08358508167168
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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I think it's pretty well established at this point that Trump knows nothing and isn't interested in learning.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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"The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was—in the Commission's view—honest, equitable, and balanced."

"The Fairness Doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented."

"The FCC eliminated the policy in 1987 and removed the rule that implemented the policy from the Federal Register in August 2011."

"The demise of this FCC rule has been considered by some to be a contributing factor for the rising level of party polarization in the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine


Stumps above statement says the "Fairness Doctrine.. target(ed) (the) conservative media."

How did the Fairness Doctrine target the conservative media?

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Old 11-21-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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This is going to absolutely infuriate a TON of people. And the GOP is going to get slammed for it in the coming elections.
It looks like an old-fashioned 1980s corporate raid: Gain control, get hold of all the cash you can squeeze out, sell every asset that can be sold, take care of your buddies and dump the empty husk when you're done.

So a few congressmen will have to move their office to K street and become lobbyists, what's it to them? They got theirs.
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