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I often hear conservatives complaining about people being victims or engaging in victimhood. What exactly do these things mean from a conservative point of view?
Those who instantly revert to being a victim of a thing which really doesn't exist to excuse their bad behavior. EXP: a black man is killed by a cop, whether rightfully or not, which incites thousands of blacks (and others) calling for the killing of or violence against all cops. That is a single incident of a single victim promoted as being the state of mass victimhood.
It's the promotion of class, race, religious, gender warfare against other classes, races, religions, genders that have nothing to do with any given incident.
I will show you a great and recent example in Los Angeles.
Just read this article.
These people think that white people and 'whiteness' are the cause for all their problems.
They are protesting an independent small business, a coffee shop and acting hysterical.
The businesses located next to this coffeeshop are a pawn shop and a payday lender it looks like.
Our liberal progressive , "pro tolerance" mayor and city council in this city has yet to speak out about this racism.
Victimhood hierarchy / stack. A way of using identitarianism in order to attempt to gain undue moral authority. Paint yourself and your identity group as the victim of systematic oppression perpetrated by another group in order to discredit and silence individual "members" of that group. Often used in conjunction with the concepts of micro-aggression and words as violence.
The Evergreen State College debacle, the Jordan Peterson protests, and the Yale / Christakis incident are three good examples off the top of my head.
I often hear conservatives complaining about people being victims or engaging in victimhood. What exactly do these things mean from a conservative point of view?
Third wave feminists. They don't like actually taking responsibility for anything in their lives so blaming everything else such as men and the patriarchy is a very convenient scapegoat.
I often hear conservatives complaining about people being victims or engaging in victimhood. What exactly do these things mean from a conservative point of view?
Individuals want justice for a wrongdoing. That's universal.
But when individuals use perceived slights (whether true or not) to further a collectivist cause then you have a case of (often perpetual) victimhood.
What these individuals (attempt to) do is play on the emotions of others who would naturally sympathize with a victim to extract something from them (usually money or political power) for personal gain under the guise of "fighting for the cause".
See Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.
This is why collectivism and the idea of the ends justifying the means are such a cancer to reason, justice, and morality.
I think all people victimize themselves in some way at some point in time in their lives.
Honestly, I feel that conservatives are just as likely to claim to be a victim (see all this "media/people picking on Trump" nonsense") as liberals or any minority group or women.
Every day on this particular forum I see posts of self proclaimed white men who feel they are victims of political correctness.
In my personal life, since I live in the Rust Belt, I also personally know a lot of white men who per Marleinie "don't like taking responsibility for anything in their lives" and they blame government for all their problems in their lives or minority groups or women, etc. Everyone claims victimization at some point in time.
IMO it is a natural thing for people to do because they don't want to take a look at themselves and/or their neighborhoods/communities and actually do something to make situations better in their lives and/or environments.
I think all people victimize themselves in some way at some point in time in their lives.
Honestly, I feel that conservatives are just as likely to claim to be a victim (see all this "media/people picking on Trump" nonsense") as liberals or any minority group or women.
Every day on this particular forum I see posts of self proclaimed white men who feel they are victims of political correctness.
In my personal life, since I live in the Rust Belt, I also personally know a lot of white men who per Marleinie "don't like taking responsibility for anything in their lives" and they blame government for all their problems in their lives or minority groups or women, etc. Everyone claims victimization at some point in time.
IMO it is a natural thing for people to do because they don't want to take a look at themselves and/or their neighborhoods/communities and actually do something to make situations better in their lives and/or environments.
You're definitely right that the victim mentality is not limited to any specific type of person. They're hurting themselves and preventing their own success. Where it really becomes a problem is when they advocate for political action to "correct" their victimhood. That affects everyone.
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