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You gotta a problem with that? Revisit your thoughts and try to follow the "Live and let live" rule.
There are quite a few problems at home that you can use your time and energy to help with. Don't sweat too much of your blood in the business of others.
No shortage of religious/ tribal laws and courts throughout the world. Most civil law can trace its roots to religious / tribal laws.
Two people can agree to have a dispute resolved by a religious/ tribal court. The outcome is unenforceable unless it complies to the country's laws unless two parties agree otherwise. How would a country be aware of what a court did unless one party disputed it.
No such thing as a universal Sharia Law.
Judgments of an Islamic Court in the UK have no legal basis in the UK. Outcomes are unenforceable unless both parties agree. Sharia courts deal mostly with inheritence and marital disputes.
Sharia Law generally does not favor women when it comes to marital and inheritence disputes, not too different than assorted US states laws, once did.
It's not exactly the same thing because these religious courts have an extremely lopsided scale when it comes to men's and women's rights, and there is huge pressure from the family for women to go to these courts for family disputes. Many people come from countries like Pakistan, where honor killing is common. They averaged three honor killings a day in Pakistan in 2015. How do women from such societies get a fair shake in the U.K. if they're forced to go to one of these courts?
Pakistan CIVIL/ Criminal ( not Sharia) law based on British colonial laws in India contains a so- called loophole that voids prosecution when the family forgives and blood money is exchanged.
Honour killings predate organized religion. It's a deeply rooted ancient cultural issue, especially in eastern societies with India and Pakistan being ground zero.
A Pakistani immigrant who kills a family member because of percieved shame, is not going to be able to invoke Pakistani CivilLaw to avoid being prosecuted anywhere outside Pakistan.
Honor killings are more common in India amongst the rural Hindu population. A variation is a dowry murder where by a husband or one of his family murders his wife for an inadequate dowry.
Neither the Quran or Sharia condone honor killings.
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A million times, and I've never seen a single problem in Dearborn. It easily one of Detroit's nicest, most beautiful suburbs. I have several relatives who live there. No issues. Great schools, safe, clean, and the buses run on time.
Those are bad things?
OH come on now. Every once in a blue moon, someone attends a Dearborn town council meeting and uses his allotted public comment period to demand Sharia Law. Next thing you know, some media groups report the usual clickbait that Dearborn has adopted Sharia Law.
I'm sure Linda Sarsour wants Sharia law courts here and no punishment for Female Genital Mutilation. Hmm, has anyone peeked under her burka to see if she is Sharia compliant?
Any you know this how?
FGM substantially predates organized religion. It's first and foremost a tribal custom that likely originated in Africa and spread to parts of the Middle East. Religious practices trend cultural.
Both the Quran and New Testiment are silent on the topic of FGM. Fatwas are scholarly local opinions on Islamic law and often contradict each other. Some fatwas condone FGM and most forbid it. A substantial percentage of women in Egypt including Coptics have been mutilated despite laws making it a crime and no particular religious basis.
OH come on now. Every once in a blue moon, someone attends a Dearborn town council meeting and uses his allotted public comment period to demand Sharia Law. Next thing you know, some media groups report the usual clickbait that Dearborn has adopted Sharia Law.
LOL...I know! That's how lazy American journalism has become nowadays.
I'm sure Linda Sarsour wants Sharia law courts here and no punishment for Female Genital Mutilation. Hmm, has anyone peeked under her burka to see if she is Sharia compliant?
FGM is a practice tied to specific geographic locales (and specific tribes), mostly in Sub-Saharan Africa, and is practiced among Christians in these areas as well. (It way predates Christianity and Islam.) It's been roundly condemned by Islamic authority figures from other areas. But you knew that, I am sure- you speak as an authority, after all.
Pakistan CIVIL/ Criminal ( not Sharia) law based on British colonial laws in India contains a so- called loophole that voids prosecution when the family forgives and blood money is exchanged.
Honour killings predate organized religion. It's a deeply rooted ancient cultural issue, especially in eastern societies with India and Pakistan being ground zero.
A Pakistani immigrant who kills a family member because of percieved shame, is not going to be able to invoke Pakistani CivilLaw to avoid being prosecuted anywhere outside Pakistan.
Honor killings are more common in India amongst the rural Hindu population. A variation is a dowry murder where by a husband or one of his family murders his wife for an inadequate dowry.
Neither the Quran or Sharia condone honor killings.
Nice recitation, but so what? Whether it's religious or cultural, it amounts to the same thing in what I'm talking about here. If I thought all Muslims did this, I wouldn't have specified Pakistan.
Please explain why this makes my argument less valid. Did you even read the links I posted? They weren't from right wing sites. They were from people within the community, women, who feel the same way I do about this. They're in a better position to know than you are.
Are these officially sanctioned government run courts, or are they community arbitrations?
They're binding arbitration agreements. Yes, a judge has to approve it, but all they do is ask if both parties agree. The woman would still be in the same position she was in before seeking this council, and likely would say yes. Do you honestly think a judge is going to then say, nope, this is not fair? We're talking about a legal system that ignored for a decade at least sexual grooming practices of people in the Pakistani community of very young local girls out of fear of being labeled Islamophobic or fear of creating Islamophobia.
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