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Old 07-18-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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You nailed it. Subway uses a assembly line to get your sandwich made. They are all usually cashier from time to time.
Missing the point that human labor has become more expensive than a machine. So instead of subway hiring on additional human help, they invest in tech.
you really hate the unskilled dont ya?
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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When their options to avoid getting an education go away, hopefully they finally take responsibility for their life and start contributing to society.
Judgmental much? No one has answered my question about these minimum wage workers. Since they are supposedly so lazy (and most of them aren't), how are they supposed to "contribute to society?" BTW, working a minimum wage job does not mean they aren't contributing to society. After all, someone has to do the crappy jobs, right? And they can't afford college, since they will land them in boatloads of debt, and that doesn't guarantee them a decent paying job anyway. Vocational school? That might give them a job in the short term, but there are still tuition fees involved and those manufacturing jobs are being shipped overseas as well. And when they have few skills, they can't land a high paying job off the street. So what is your solution besides judging them as being lazy on a message board?
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:53 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Missing the point that human labor has become more expensive than a machine. So instead of subway hiring on additional human help, they invest in tech.
you really hate the unskilled dont ya?
Please explain to me what point I missed?

I don't want these machines in any restaurant. I want people to stay employed. That being said if these things are put in Subway I don't think it will make a difference because of how their operation runs. It will be more efficient in making sandwiches because they would have the extra employee on the assembly line. I just hope it doesn't eliminate a job or two in each store.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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False. The $15 minimum wage is not the cause of the existence of these kiosks. The only city in America with a $15 minimum wage is Seattle. Subway installed these kiosks to reduce labor costs in general, whether they were $8/hour or $12/hour.
We're coming to a point where humans are going to be replaced by people in several aspects of the labor market. It is mostly going to be the unskilled who lose. Now amount of lowering the pay will solve that.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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And do what?
Become productive or starve.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Unless the kiosks are going to cut the goods and stuff the sandwiches, I fail to see how this has any effect on labor at all. There is no one who takes your order while someone in back preps it. The Subway way has been to talk to the dude/dudette who is making your sandwich as it is being done. Lettuce? Yep. Mayo? yep. The questions are often repeated by the "chef" and they still get it wrong when you finally get the sandwich (and the chef works the cash register too). The way I see it is the change will reduce messed up orders and won't put anyone out of a job, for now at least. Soon enough, a robot will make the sandwich, I suppose.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Panera has also done this type of thing...order and pay from your phone or at your table. They still have cashiers, but I never stand in line there anymore.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I prefer a touch screen kiosk. It is faster, and less confusing than trying to understand a cashier looking at me with a blank expression. Doesn't San Francisco also have a $15/hr min wage? It really doesn't matter. All the cities have raised taxes, and made it more, and more expensive to employ people, and do business there. Many restaurants, and chains are moving out.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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What will the functional illiterates do when automation takes over their low skilled jobs?


ask Trump, that was his whole platform, getting them jobs.....how's that working out?
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We're coming to a point where humans are going to be replaced by people in several aspects of the labor market. It is mostly going to be the unskilled who lose. Now amount of lowering the pay will solve that.
I think it will affect highly skilled more or more than people think it will. Doctors and engineers can be replaced more easily than home health care workers and landscapers by AI.
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