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Old 07-24-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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And what's your solution if someone can afford 500 grand for their chemo?
Your example is good. Prices must come down to reasonable levels.
What if a heart transplant cost 1-million dollars. Who's worth a million dollars?

Consider the little British kid with no brain function. What was his tab? Should they have set him up with some Frankenstein rig and kept him alive for years for £millions? I say that's not fair to anyone. Especially the kid.

My brother's surgery cost the "system" almost $300K. He was on disability and had no money.
He died 4-months later. What happened to the value of what the hospital charged? Where did that $300K go? The money was wasted.
He probably would have lived as long without the major surgery. Too much money gets wasted because everyone thinks someone else is paying the tab.

Is everyone entitled to whatever they need? Where on earth did people come up with such an idea?
I want a new F150 and a 27-foot Everglades. Tell me why I'm not entitled to them. I must work to pay for them. What a concept!

Drug companies offer huge discounts to indigent patients and providers. We have to make drug and surgery costs public, so we can choose what's best for each individual. We must get the scumbag-lawyers out of the medical system. They're only in it for themselves.

Life isn't fair, and everyone isn't entitled to an equal outcome. That's the way the cookie crumbles. That's life.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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“Together we’re going to deliver real change that once again puts Americans first,” <> Trump said at an October rally in Florida.[/url] “That begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as Obamacare…You’re going to have such great health care, at a tiny fraction of the cost—and it’s going to be so easy.”
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This is one of those speeches that reminds us that in the world of mathematics, 3/2 is a fraction, too.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Obviously if you're poor you don't deserve a chance to beat cancer.

Rumor is that the Rs are trying to get permission from McCain ' s Dr to have him fly in to vote tomorrow. If true, disgusting on all sides.
That attitude is why the system is broken. As a matter of fact, the poor don't and shouldn't get the same treatment as a millionaire. Only Bernie Sanders would think such a thing.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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Your example is good. Prices must come down to reasonable levels.
What if a heart transplant cost 1-million dollars. Who's worth a million dollars?

Consider the little British kid with no brain function. What was his tab? Should they have set him up with some Frankenstein rig and kept him alive for years for £millions? I say that's not fair to anyone. Especially the kid.

My brother's surgery cost the "system" almost $300K. He was on disability and had no money.
He died 4-months later. What happened to the value of what the hospital charged? Where did that $300K go? The money was wasted.
He probably would have lived as long without the major surgery. Too much money gets wasted because everyone thinks someone else is paying the tab.

Is everyone entitled to whatever they need? Where on earth did people come up with such an idea?
I want a new F150 and a 27-foot Everglades. Tell me why I'm not entitled to them. I must work to pay for them. What a concept!

Drug companies offer huge discounts to indigent patients and providers. We have to make drug and surgery costs public, so we can choose what's best for each individual. We must get the scumbag-lawyers out of the medical system. They're only in it for themselves.

Life isn't fair, and everyone isn't entitled to an equal outcome. That's the way the cookie crumbles. That's life.


so someone's not wanting to have cancer is the same as your wanting an F-150? wow!!
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:01 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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so someone's not wanting to have cancer is the same as your wanting an F-150? wow!!
I knew you would understand that if you want the better things in life, you had better work hard and save for them.
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:24 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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I knew you would understand that if you want the better things in life, you had better work hard and save for them.
So I should have to work hard and save up for my health care?

I agree with a previous poster about single payer. It will not turn us into a socialist country.
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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That attitude is why the system is broken. As a matter of fact, the poor don't and shouldn't get the same treatment as a millionaire. Only Bernie Sanders would think such a thing.
The rich and poor should both get the medical standard of care. The rich can get frills, which by and large are cheap.
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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The irony is that it's pretty much in all the industrialized nations where healthcare isn't a for profit industry.
Conservatives call the taxes required to provide basic health care, 'slavery' and 'theft'. According to them, they're under no obligation to give back to the country that provides the basis and security for their success.

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...Life isn't fair, and everyone isn't entitled to an equal outcome. That's the way the cookie crumbles. That's life.
The conservative credo rears its ugly head again; I've got mine f___ you. Regarding health care, that's life only here in America. (see above)...
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I love the can do attitude.
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So I should have to work hard and save up for my health care?

I agree with a previous poster about single payer. It will not turn us into a socialist country.
Yes, God knows Switzerland isn't socialist!
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