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Syria was never ours to be had. Assad and his government were (for years) the legitimate power of Syria and have been aligned with Russia and Iran for years. Now the US wants it so we arm terrorists to overthrow the legitimate government and throw Syria into chaos just to gain influence there and expand the empire.
If you are so concerned about Russia and Iran having influence there maybe you should do something about it instead of supporting arming terrorists which is what (as the pentagon has said) the FSA is, they are al-qaeda affiliates, this is a fact.
BINGO!
Russia has been aligned with Syria for DECADES, which is why they want Assad in power - he guarantees Russia's naval port in Syria and of course energy.
There are lots of bad dictators across the world that we don't do military strikes against. Did we choose to arm terrorists in this one to stick a finger in Russia's eye? How much influence will we have in Syria if ISIS takes control with Obama's weapons?
Crap, we need to find some Iraqis who don't run and leave our massive free stock piles of weapons for ISIS.
Time to send more weapons.
Good thing we sent more, because the Iraqi forces have broken ISIS in Iraq, and driven them out of every major city. Yes, some units were overran and they lost some US based weapons, but it's good they didn't throw in the towel like you suggest they should have done.
Good thing we sent more, because the Iraqi forces have broken ISIS in Iraq, and driven them out of every major city. Yes, some units were overran and they lost some US based weapons, but it's good they didn't throw in the towel like you suggest they should have done.
This thread is about Obama arming rebels through sheer idiocy on his part.
Obama, the man who supposedly ended the Iraq War did what after ISIS stole Iraq's US weapons? Sent back in more US troops. Perhaps he pulled them out to quick if he had to then increase the amount we had there?
I am a million times more accepting of Obama giving free weapons to a "government" of sorts than "moderate" rebels that end up being ISIS or Al Qaeda over and over again.
Obama is arming Iraq while arming moderate rebels that are fighting Iraq.
Obama has helped Al Qaeda and ISIS immensely with idiotic blunders.
Good thing we sent more, because the Iraqi forces have broken ISIS in Iraq, and driven them out of every major city. Yes, some units were overran and they lost some US based weapons, but it's good they didn't throw in the towel like you suggest they should have done.
That is the Iraqi government. Arming terrorists in Syria won't bare the same results.
Sure looks like ISIS is losing in Syria too. I don't read Breitbart, so you might have different reports.
Yes, due to progress by the Syrian government not the US backed terrorists, in fact many of the FSA are switching over to fight with ISIS against the Syrian government with American arms.
What is your end game here?
Do you want the Syrian government to fall in place of a dozen terrorists organizations just so Russia and Iran can't have influence there?
If anything places with US support in the Middle East are far worse off than countries with the backing of Iran or Russia. Think about that for a second and decide how we should (as a country) move forward in this region rather than fighting wars just to keep Iran and Russia weak while keeping the gulf states (much worse than either of those countries) powerful.
Yes, due to progress by the Syrian government not the US backed terrorists.........
No, it is not due to Syrian government. You keep calling US allies terrorists, and with that level of ignorance, there is no point in discussing it. Feel free to believe anything you want.
Syria was never ours to be had. Assad and his government were (for years) the legitimate power of Syria and have been aligned with Russia and Iran for years. Now the US wants it so we arm terrorists to overthrow the legitimate government and throw Syria into chaos just to gain influence there and expand the empire.
If you are so concerned about Russia and Iran having influence there maybe you should do something about it instead of supporting arming terrorists which is what (as the pentagon has said) the FSA is, they are al-qaeda affiliates, this is a fact.
US activity in Syria has not been about obtaining a Syrian client State. I think there have been 3 to 4 primary goals:
1) Obtain an end-state with the Syrian government in power, but Assad under house arrest or otherwise out of power.
2) Increase pain on Russian and Iranian efforts to retain an allied power in Syria.
3) Secure a semi-autonomous zone for Kurds.
4) Obtain leverage over Iran for wider settlement of ongoing, region-wide disputes.
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon
BINGO!
Russia has been aligned with Syria for DECADES, which is why they want Assad in power - he guarantees Russia's naval port in Syria and of course energy.
There are lots of bad dictators across the world that we don't do military strikes against. Did we choose to arm terrorists in this one to stick a finger in Russia's eye? How much influence will we have in Syria if ISIS takes control with Obama's weapons?
No, it is not due to Syrian government. You keep calling US allies terrorists, and with that level of ignorance, there is no point in discussing it. Feel free to believe anything you want.
I highly suggest you read this excellent article on the Syrian civil war;
It's not simply that the FSA is a terrorists organization but that they are supported by the MB (financed by Qatar) who were kicked out of Syria by Assad's father. None of these moderate opposition forces have secular ideas, they are all aligned with the ideology of al nursa or some other local terrorist group and the relationship between the FSA and these terrorists organizations is how US arms have landed into the hands of terrorists escalating the civil war in Syria.
I just don't see how the continuing of this policy started by Obama has anything to do with peace or stability in the region.
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