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Old 07-19-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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The terror attacks were home grown with few exceptions.
I have never been robbed. Never been shot at. Never had a credit card stolen.
That doesn't mean that I don't take precautions. There is nothing wrong with limiting immigration from countries hostile towards our own. There is nothing wrong with regulating immigration based upon the needs of our own country. We don't need to import undereducated people who don't have the means to support themselves. WE produce enough of those ourselves.
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: DFW
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The terror attacks were home grown with few exceptions. How many refugees were involved in terror attacks.
You think we should be like Europe? Let them in first then watch the attacks ?
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:32 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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You clearly ignored the part where the SCOTUS upheld the Hawaii ruling on other family members and visitors being allowed to enter.
salvage whatever crumbs you can find, lil buddy
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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The Supreme Court just ruled that Trump can enforce the immigration ban, and the order of the court in Hawaii is null. - https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/887719230812168192
Great. That won't p*ss off all the terrorists that are already on American soil. I feel safer already.
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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salvage whatever crumbs you can find, lil buddy
Hmmm...that was just what I was thinking about this thread!
Nothing is settled..just SCOTUS sending it back to the 9th--more to come..and still..Grandpa and Grandma..get to visit Achmed..victory for who???
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:36 PM
 
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It was long obvious this is how they would rule.
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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You clearly ignored the part where the SCOTUS upheld the Hawaii ruling on other family members and visitors being allowed to enter.
The Court did not uphold the Hawaii ruling, but rather said it would not decide whether to block/allow until after the 9th Circuit has had the chance to rule. And it makes sense. In the Court's first ruling on the matter, it clearly stated that refugees may not use a relocation agency to create a bona fide relationship for the purposes of getting into the US. The Hawaii court's ruling on this issue clearly contradicted the Court's first opinion, hence the stay. Now, as to the other issue, the Court was right to essentially say wait for the 9th Circuit to rule as that issue is one of interpretation (i.e. what constitutes a "close family relationship"). Accordingly, under the normal judicial rules, the next proper step is to the court of appeals, not to the Supreme Court. Having written that, I'm on the side of Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch, and would've reversed all of the initial injunction when the case first made its way to the high court.
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:20 PM
 
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You think we should be like Europe? Let them in first then watch the attacks ?
are those the only choices, or are you simply trying to make it seem like they are.


Cause i think we could just use the highly improved vetting system brought in a few years back by OBAMA that has worked great.. and is neither evil like trump nor too much like merkal.


But then that would not sound scary would it Rakin? You want to pretend our choices are Trump or germany. But that is FAKE, it is BULL. Our choice is anywhere on that spectrum, Obama had us in a great place. OBAMA brought in "extreme vetting " years ago, it has worked, Trump found out we already had excellent vetting and realized he needed to shut up about it before his supporters found out. (why do you think trump says so little about it)

7 months in Trump has NOT changed our vetting processes, not come up with a plan either. What you are doing Rakin is plain old fashioned fear mongering. I dont know why, maybe its racism , sectarianism or xenophobe, but the the lousy few people we let in are already screen very well and none have turned out to be terrorists , none absolutely none.
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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The terror attacks were home grown with few exceptions. How many refugees were involved in terror attacks.

They still had roots from terrorist countries. What difference does it make if they are called refugees? I'm sure terrorists figure out different ways to get into our country.
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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You clearly ignored the part where the SCOTUS upheld the Hawaii ruling on other family members and visitors being allowed to enter.
Say what? I thought that was what the whole fracas was about.
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