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Old 08-05-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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When they began focusing on nonsensical talking points such as putting boys in girls' locker rooms, total defense of illegals and abortion on demand right up until the moment of birth, all of which is outrageous to moderate, common sense.
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Judging by the faces behind Trump at one of these adulation fests He meant "Make White America Great Again".


Personally I think America is GREAT now but can be better. It can be made better for everyone and not just white men. I figure we can become GREAT enough we do not need to waste our wealth on fighting insane religious wars in the Middle East. I think we should just leave and let these butchers kill each other.

I hate it when you lefties lie and pull the race card. Trump has never implied nor made such a statement. Even his actions don't support your claims.
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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When they began focusing on nonsensical talking points such as putting boys in girls' locker rooms, total defense of illegals and abortion on demand right up until the moment of birth, all of which is outrageous to moderate, common sense.
You know who is super-focused on that?

Repuglican state legislators who continue to pass bill after bill about it.
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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I don't know. The Black blue collar vote is still intact.
Why? Obama did nothing for them.

Michael Moore on Obama :

"When history looks back at you, you'll be known as the first black president...and that's it."
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Judging by the faces behind Trump at one of these adulation fests He meant "Make White America Great Again".


Personally I think America is GREAT now but can be better. It can be made better for everyone and not just white men. I figure we can become GREAT enough we do not need to waste our wealth on fighting insane religious wars in the Middle East. I think we should just leave and let these butchers kill each other.
Charleston Gazette-Mail | Pulitzer Prize-winning West Virginia news | Kentucky doctor gains internet fame after Huntington Trump rally

Like this guy? Behind him at the WV rally?

Another upstanding Trump citizen ~
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Prior to attending the rally Thursday, Paulus was indicted on 11 counts of fraud in September 2015, with federal prosecutors stating he performed medically unnecessary heart procedures, including catheterization and inserting stents, on patients at King’s Daughters Medical Center in Ashland, Kentucky, between 2008 and 2013, according to the indictment filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Kentucky. U.S. Attorney Kerry Harvey said Paulus would then bill Medicaid, Medicare and patients’ private insurers for the needless procedures
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Identity politics was the Dems' sole focus. Will be again if they are let back in office, despite copying Trump's agenda and calling it the "Better Deal." They have zero intention of fulfilling their "Better Deal." It's a vote-getter only because it is what got Trump elected.

Jobs for American citizens, the welfare of American citizens, and economy proved to be last on their list and always will be. That why union workers voted against Clinton, despite the urgings of the union leaders who supported Clinton. Can't be trusted again. What they do and what they say are two completely different things.
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Old 08-05-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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People vote their interests. And globalism is not in the interests of blue-collar voters, regardless of race.


The white-working class voted for nationalism(the protection of their values, and their livelihoods). The black/Hispanic working-class voted for protections, special-privileges, and government benefits.


There is no reason to complicate something simple.
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Old 08-05-2017, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Someone replied: "Trump told people whatever he felt they wanted to hear."

Well, duh. You know what you get when you tell people what they DON'T want to hear?

WALTER MONDALE.
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Old 08-05-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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This isn't about whether Trump told people what they wanted to hear.

This is about whether Trump actually wants to give it to them. And also, whether Trump can actually give it to them.


Trump, being a narcissist like most people in politics, wants people to love him and admire him. It isn't about the money. He has far more money than he could ever spend.

The purpose of money, for the rich, is that the people with money get the admiration and respect. The more money, the more admiration and respect. If you are rich, the men want to be you, and the women want to be with you.


Trump wants to make the people love him. And keeping his promises would make the people love him. Thus, not because he honestly cares about the lives of us common people, but because he wants us to love him, he badly wants to keep his promises. And he wants his name to go down in the history books as the greatest president ever.


So then the question is, "Can Trump give them what they want?"


Well, theoretically the answer is yes. Though most of it is unlikely, because it would require a total restructuring of the entire "world order". Every "globalist" is opposed to Trump's nationalism. And they will use all of their resources and influence to make sure it never happens.


Corporations love immigration. The bankers love globalism. Capitalists have no country.


"Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains." - Thomas Jefferson
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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Why? Obama did nothing for them.

Michael Moore on Obama :

"When history looks back at you, you'll be known as the first black president...and that's it."
Well, that is Michael Moore's opinion, and I don't pay any attention to him.

Something else. When it comes down to the candidate who gives you crumbs vs the candidate who blatantly ignores you/talks down about you, who are you going to pick?
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