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Old 07-22-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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The truth is that Trump has done nothing for the American People and any remotely positive thing he has done ...tends to benefit him and his family a lot more more than the average American!
That's just the kind of reporting seen in the media. Only difference is they have more of it.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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That must not even be a complete list, as Donna Brazile is not even in those listed as having colluded to get Hillary elected.



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Old 07-22-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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That's just the kind of reporting seen in the media.
Why don't you tell us what he has done that hasn't been reported.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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You say "Independent" press. Independent of what? Kind of hard to be independent when the vast majority of so called journalists openly identify as radical left wing democrats.
Vast majority of journalist classify themselves as radical left wing. Love to see you prove that one.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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And here I always thought the press's job was to report the news in a factual way.

Silly me!
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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The old reporters would go out there and pound the pavement to dig (investigate) whatever news they had in mind to bring to the public. Nowadays journalists come out of college already indoctrinated about one side of the political spectrum. Nowadays they don't have to investigate, but to disseminate the news somebody else has told, and all of this can be done while sitting in front of a computer. Once investigative reporting does not longer take place, anything can be fake news.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:17 PM
 
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The first thing to go in a nation that is no longer free is the press. Dictators don't like criticism and prefer to monopolize the messaging their people can hear.

It seems to me that conservatives will accept no criticism of Donald Trump and would go to any lengths to dismantle the ability of media organizations to do so.

Sure, they say that they just don't like the "liberal media" and would accept one that is "fair"...which I take to mean "doesn't criticize Donald Trump."

Look, I don't like Breitbart, FOX, or Infowars, but I support their right to continue to exist, because I think that we're overall better off with a press corps capable of asking questions independent of government than without it.

I see no indication that Donald Trump has any respect for the role of a free press in our society, and I genuinely believe he would dismantle it entirely if he could. Do conservatives understand the value of a free press not beholden to a President, or do they really wish to do away with it?


Where have you been for the last 8 years when the press had a love affair with Obama, and seemed incapable of criticizing/investigating him?
Remember, independent means neutral, and they have been far from that in the last 50+ years. How else do you explain the "paper of record" not endorsing a single Republican for president since the 1950's?

Sure no one wants a state controlled press/media, and the Founding Fathers certainly didn't want it. However, if the media, due to the domination of their members of one party/political ideology, give one party a pass, yet attack the other without mercy, how can you start a thread like this with a straight face?
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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Where have you been for the last 8 years when the press had a love affair with Obama, and seemed incapable of criticizing/investigating him?
Remember, independent means neutral, and they have been far from that in the last 50+ years. How else do you explain the "paper of record" not endorsing a single Republican for president since the 1950's?

Sure no one wants a state controlled press/media, and the Founding Fathers certainly didn't want it. However, if the media, due to the domination of their members of one party/political ideology, give one party a pass, yet attack the other without mercy, how can you start a thread like this with a straight face?
Is fox neutral? Most tak radio neutral?
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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So it wasn't about her emails? Odd considering that's the phrase everyone including cons were screaming.
OMG, see what I mean? It's proof positive that some people STILL don't understand what was going on!

Because the initial presentation of the info was intentionally clouded to confuse people and downplay the seriousness of it. Plenty got fooled...and that was the plan.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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OMG, see what I mean? It's proof positive that some people STILL don't understand what was going on!

Because the initial presentation of the info was intentionally clouded to confuse people and downplay the seriousness of it. Plenty got fooled...and that was the plan.
So her emails weren't the issue?
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