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Dem fanatics blame the two Republican Senators with enough common sense and compassion to vote no on a bill that Democrats were not allowed to see never mind have any input on? Not exactly. You need to look at Trump and the knee jerker GOPers who are casting blame.
There is a lot of whining over a vote failing because 48 or 50 republicans voted for it, while 2-4 Republicans and 48 Democrats voted against it.
All the blame mysteriously falls on the republicans who voted No. The Democrats get a free pass, even though they did exactly what those Republicans did.
Once again the Democrats have abdicated their roles completely, now including ducking the blame for the votes they cast that result in ever-greater harm to the nation (as well as violations of the Constitution).
What are you talking about? Are you trying to spin that Democrats are "blaming" republicans for the outcome they wanted?
How about speaking the truth?: If there is a vote with 48-0 Dem and 2-48 Republican support, the Dems are not BLAMING anyone. They are rightfully taking credit for getting the outcome they wanted.
I assume you are talking about Trump/GOP failure to pass healthcare? Dems don't blame that on the 2 R-votes. They "blame" R's for having 7+ years to come up with a better solution, and failing to do so, and they take CREDIT for saving our nation from a bill that is 1000x worse than ACA, whatever you might think of ACA.
Who will the Democrats blame if nothing gets passed by this Congress to fix health care and Obamacare fails? Will they be happy with Obamacare no matter what happens?
Doesn't that depend on WHY ACA might fail?
If R's give it a chance, and don't undermine it, then D's have to accept responsibility. But since that is not even a possible outcome, we have to consider that R's have aggressively undermined it. They openly have said they will make it fail. So assign credit or blame squarely on the R's if it fails. Whether it's credit or blame depends on your perspective, I suppose.
Right, he should be blaming the Democrats who 100% will not vote their conscience or for the benefit of their constituents, only voting for party loyalty. I have more respect for those Republicans who don't vote along party lines, even though I want to see Obamacare repealed.
Why are you all whining when you have majority of House and senate but still can't repeal or replace? Don't blame your own impotence on the democrats. They have always stated they will not support repeal, but will work to reform and improve. So go to a corner and suck your thumb until you feel better about your republican failures.
It's a Republican bill, advancing Republican policy priorities. Why on earth would a Democrat be expected to vote for it? Especially when it repeals a Democrat program.
The 2-4 Rs are rightly blamed because that's the party that holds the majority. When holding the majority it shouldn't be all that challenging to develop legislation that 100% of their colleagues can feel good about voting for and, you know, actually pass.
There is a lot of whining over a vote failing because 48 or 50 republicans voted for it, while 2-4 Republicans and 48 Democrats voted against it.
All the blame mysteriously falls on the republicans who voted No. The Democrats get a free pass, even though they did exactly what those Republicans did.
Once again the Democrats have abdicated their roles completely, now including ducking the blame for the votes they cast that result in ever-greater harm to the nation (as well as violations of the Constitution).
I don't see a single Democrat blaming Republicans for voting against the republican party. But i do see a bunch of Republicans blaming them.. so firstly lets get that clear.
now
lets assume you are talking about the healthcare bills, (because you are). Here is the deal democrats campaigned hard on supporting ACA and fighting any new bill that hurts (in their view) the public.
We get it, you have the majority in both houses and POTUS and SCOTUS and still can't manage to pass wind. what you have to look at is your POLICY. clearly YOUR own party does not believe it good and clearly 100% of dems don't believe it is any better than evil.
Your party under Mitch and Ryan refused to even give Obama and the Dems a vote or hearing on picking a new member of the supreme court.
lets think about that. You want to blame the dems for NOT providing you the votes to get what you want and just one year ago your party was not even allowing a vote. And for the first time in US history a SCOTUS seat was stolen. (shame on you lot)
The dems are doing exactly what we elected them to do. Ie stop the hateful evil Trump policy ref healthcare insurance.
There is a lot of whining over a vote failing because 48 or 50 republicans voted for it, while 2-4 Republicans and 48 Democrats voted against it.
All the blame mysteriously falls on the republicans who voted No. The Democrats get a free pass, even though they did exactly what those Republicans did.
Once again the Democrats have abdicated their roles completely, now including ducking the blame for the votes they cast that result in ever-greater harm to the nation (as well as violations of the Constitution).
Again -- we have to note that often our perception makes us interpret information to support our narrative.
I've heard a whole lot of blame being thrown at the Democrats for not 'helping' the Republicans.
That's just silly. Republican controlled govt. can't get things done and we are suppose to focus on the Democrats.
Trump is like the little league team that kept playing after the other team left, and they still can't score a run.
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