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View Poll Results: Do you believe Donald Trump is a man of loyalty, integrity and honesty?
Yes 71 16.14%
No 369 83.86%
Voters: 440. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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Even if you support him I don't think you could say he's an honest man. That's part of his appeal, that he's a no-holds-barred kind of guy.
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Old 07-29-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Parroting what you've been told by the Left-wing media ...people like Rachel Madcow and "Morning Joke."

There is no evidence of him "stiffing" workers, and he hasn't conned anybody. One thing he did do was get a skating rink in New York built ahead of schedule and under budget, something that nobody else was able to do. Oh, you didn't hear about that? That's because you watch CNN and MSNBC.

All you people know is how to lie.
OK, he built one skate rink. You win the argument, congratulations!
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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There is no evidence of him "stiffing" workers, and he hasn't conned anybody.
There are mountains of evidence of Trump stiffing vendors and contractors (just as there are mountains of evidence of Trump being dishonest)... but I'm not sure your reality distortion field would allow you to accept them. What type of evidence would you accept?

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Old 07-29-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Parroting what you've been told by the Left-wing media ...people like Rachel Madcow and "Morning Joke."

There is no evidence of him "stiffing" workers, and he hasn't conned anybody. One thing he did do was get a skating rink in New York built ahead of schedule and under budget, something that nobody else was able to do. Oh, you didn't hear about that? That's because you watch CNN and MSNBC.

All you people know is how to lie.
Amen to that^^^^
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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A man of integrity and honesty? Certainly not. As for loyalty, he's loyal to himself, the Trump Organization, and his billionaire buddies long before he's loyal to the USA.
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Is there anyone in Washington who has those three qualities? Ok the Secret Service, the kitchen staff, and the cleaning & maintenance people probably do.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:00 PM
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88% No to 12% Yes (rounded to nearest full percent) at the time of this post? Yikes! I know this poll is anything but scientific, but with 249 votes within 2 days? That's got to count for something - even if a lot of C-D's polls typical responses usually skew 10% one way or another from what you would typically expect of scientific polls if those polls asked the same question. 88% is about as close to a consensus as you can reasonably expect to get even skewed "one way or the other" groups. Even if the YES is 30% off, that's still only 42% who agree he is a man of integrity - still well short of 50%.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Is there anyone in Washington who has those three qualities? Ok the Secret Service, the kitchen staff, and the cleaning & maintenance people probably do.
You make a valid point. But Trump trumps most others in Washington. He's an entirely new brand of unethical, self-serving, and dishonest.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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Parroting what you've been told by the Left-wing media ...people like Rachel Madcow and "Morning Joke."

There is no evidence of him "stiffing" workers, and he hasn't conned anybody. One thing he did do was get a skating rink in New York built ahead of schedule and under budget, something that nobody else was able to do. Oh, you didn't hear about that? That's because you watch CNN and MSNBC.

All you people know is how to lie.
You appear to be wrong about that. And, the links are not to CNN and MSNBC (oh, the horror!)

"An IBEW signatory contractor filed suit against the Trump organization for skipping out on $2 million of work done on the luxury Washington D.C. hotel in the Old Post Office Building."
Another Contractor Stiffed by Trump

"report found hundreds of liens, judgments and at least 60 lawsuits against Trump and his businesses alleging that he has not fully paid workers for their labor and in some instances refused to pay commissions for his own lawyers and real estate brokers. "
Report: Trump has refused to pay hundreds of workers | TheHill
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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I would say loyalty, integrity and honesty are attributes necessary to be the POTUS. I have not recognized these traits in our Pres.
What I have seen is an agenda that brought him to his position---and was an excellent, appealing, agenda for a discouraged populace.
It hit the buttons--no doubt--but it is very pipe dreamish and impossible to implement in todays world. I understand some improvements can be made, but alienating the world won't suffice, nor will insulting people or firing them.

I hope his supporters will see the light and support a candidate for improvements which will repair our standing with our allies ( which we need, no man is an island ) and work to actually improve our weakened domestic conditions.

Chaotic conditions and disarray in our leadership leaves us in a very vulnerable position. We are at a place in history that requires level headed and experienced leadership to exist.

I'm honestly afraid of irrepairable damage and hope this can be corrected soon by those in authority to do so.
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