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Old 07-28-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJVowYMknE

So what exactly did he do? They don't give reasons for his lack of excellence so anyone know what led him to meet his end at UCLA?
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJVowYMknE

So what exactly did he do? They don't give reasons for his lack of excellence so anyone know what led him to meet his end at UCLA?
I wonder what it was as well. Which is why I think it was personal versus totally political.

I've had similar situations whereas people don't get along with a co-worker and so they want them fired. They will go to a friend of theirs who is high up in the organizations and they will use some arbitrary rule to make a determination to fire that person.

Unfortunately this sort of thing is not illegal. It happens often in various types of organizations, including private sector businesses.

This guy was not a tenured professor. He had no protection as a lecturer and is expendable. They also might justified that they had budget issues so wanted to get rid of his fee/salary. We don't know. Those sorts of documents may be subject to Open Records requests but may also be confidential so we may never know.

But just looking at the info given, it reminds me of workplace drama and people ganging up on someone they don't like for whatever reason and getting rid of them. I think Fink wasn't necessarily targeted though for his political views, probably for his personality based on the stuff shown in the video. He also stated that he helped accused rapists with Title IX issues. That is a liability for the University and that along with him calling his dean a "liberal ideologue" and being kind of aggressive in his description of his new dean looks like she probably just didn't like him and wanted to get rid of him.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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Uproar over conservative UCLA professor's firing. Students are protesting the firing.

His mistake was defending free speech. They have messed with the wrong guy this time. A lawyer with a good record of wins in high profile cases. Has support from students too......

What is it going to take, to get it through the liberals heads, this schit isn't going to cut it.
This is what it's going to take. (& as an economic conservative, it's about time).

Effective immediately, withdraw All Federal Grants to kids attending California colleges. They are unable (or unwilling) to protect first amendment rights. & are using Federal funds to promote an attack on our Constitution should not be continued..

Let all students of California Colleges pay full freight (or let the student's parents pay) and receive ZERO federal scholarships or grants starting next month. If they take federal money (& use it for a California College), give them a 1099 at the end of the year.

Then let those wealthy progressives that are still attending wallow in their safe spaces which prevent free thought and expression. (& watch the professors pay get slashed since they won't have the Federal Govt's t*t to suckle on).
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Uproar over conservative UCLA professor's firing. Students are protesting the firing.

His mistake was defending free speech. They have messed with the wrong guy this time. A lawyer with a good record of wins in high profile cases. Has support from students too.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/34028/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Fink

Students are planning a protest demanding the university retain Keith Fink as a lecturer in the communication studies department.

Students protest department’s evaluation of lecturer Keith Fink | Daily Bruin

What is it going to take, to get it through the liberals heads, this schit isn't going to cut it.
I'm confused.

Are the students planning to protest or have they protested already?

And if the latter, was their protest successful in having this professor reinstated?

Whichever, I applaud them (the students) for speaking out against what they perceived to be an injustice.

Good to see they've learned something from the liberal bastion that is UCLA.
And that they aren't above using "liberal" tactics to make their feelings known.

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Old 07-28-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Found it, I think 25 students protested right?

About 25 students and supporters, carrying signs saying “Free speech is under attack” and “Keep your agenda out of our classroom,” gathered Friday on campus before bringing a list of demands to Laura Gómez, interim dean of UCLA College Division of Social Sciences which oversees the Communication Studies department, who wasn’t in her office when they delivered their list. Among the demands: that Fink be allowed to keep teaching and that the school implement curriculums “that increase intellectual tolerance” on campus.
Excellent.

They were allowed to protest, so basically, their free speech wasn't trampled in any fashion.

Yay UCLA!
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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Besides liberals, the rest of America doesn't really understand how deeply indoctrinated by the far left our whole education system has become in the last three decades......during which time we went from the highest in the world for quality education to now near the bottom.
Maybe at the local level, and if so, that's on whomever votes for and runs those local school boards, etc.

The university system in this country is still rated among the best in the world.
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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Maybe at the local level, and if so, that's on whomever votes for and runs those local school boards, etc.

The university system in this country is still rated among the best in the world.
Yeah, and the world doesn't have any problems either. That was a good one. Keep them coming.
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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Uproar is definitely hyperbole. I find it also interesting that there are also "activists" who may not be students protesting his removal. I found this quote from Mr. Fink quite amusing, if not enlightening:



Me thinks he has a bit of an ego.


I am all for all opinions on college campuses. That is what makes good critical thinkers.

Mr. Fink was not a tenured professor he was just a lecturer. As Conservatives like to say, if you don't like it,
we live in a free society, he can go on to another institution. Mr. Fink does strike me as a whiner.



Students protest department’s evaluation of lecturer Keith Fink | Daily Bruin
Well then, "right to work" should certainly apply here, right?

I'd like to say that the contradictory positions held simultaneously by some posters sometimes really confuse me.
But then I remember that the rules are just so different depending on the political leanings of whomever they are talking about and all is right with the world.

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Old 07-28-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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Well then, "right to work" should certainly apply here, right?

I'd like to say that the contradictory positions held simultaneously by some posters sometimes really confuse me.
But then I remember that the rules are just so different depending on the political leanings of whomever they are talking about and all is right with the world.

True enough. Certain people are untouchable right now but White Republican males have become super easy targets. It's like they don't feel pain. You can really do anything you want to them, "OMG they aren't even that human, like duh."

I figure the payback attitude will go on for another couple of years before people think they've had enough and fixate on something else. The lesson is, everyone does this, everyone. Doesn't matter who you are or what group you're in. If given the chance, the pack will pounce and call it justified. Human nature.
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