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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 09-24-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TristramShandy View Post
And their owners, including ones who paid a million dollars like Shad Khan and Robert Kraft to Trump's campaign, are choosing to side with the players rather than Trump. Trump should be the one worried about consequences.
Who is this orange used car salesman on steroids pontificating on ethics?

Isn't he the one who lies every day since he cheated his way to the WH? The guy being investigated by grand jury? The guy who paid $25M to sweep his fraud under the rug? The guy who has insulted nearly everyone who is not white and male (and offended plenty of white males as well)?

I give my full support all peaceful resistance and civil disobedience to the fool on the hill.

 
Old 09-24-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Strange that all these "patriots" don't believe in the First Amendment.

Time to take that copy of the Bill of Rights out of your pocket and read it.
Yeah, it really is the conservatives that don't read the constitution, personal letters of founding fathers etc,

It is the conservatives that get triggered when they see a constitution.

It is the conservatives that are trying to push us away from Americanism and towards globalism.

Seriously, you guys go ahead and debate whether kneeling is good or bad, or whether Trump should intervene, but saying something as ridiculous as conservatives are the ones who shy more away from the constitution is ridiculous. Ask any of your liberal friends any of them, to name 3 bill of rights, do it RIGHT NOW! ask yourself. Not every conservative can answer, but those who do answer it will be conservatives. guaranteed., GO, text a liberal friend right now.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Large % are against them. Flash mob need not be bigger than that. Empty out 25% of a stadium at opening kickoff, on tv. Great optics.
Not as large as you seem to think it is, 44% support 56% oppose
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:13 PM
 
Location: California
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If I owned or managed a football team I'd encourage my players to get involved with whatever causes they wanted and to make their voices heard but once they put on the uniform to play it's time for a united front, not just with the other team members but with their audience and fans who come in all political flavors, and who claim them as THEIR TEAM regardless of the players political flavors. That's the kind of inclusivity I'd want and I would hope I wouldn't have to make a rule or threaten them with penalties to agree.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Hey, let's keep this on topic. Trump was wrong on the NFL comments. He just created more division with his comments. If anyone watched games today, they saw hundreds and hundreds of NFL players kneeling for the anthem. This is a total result of 45's comments. And he is responsible for the division. Is this the person we want leading our country?
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire
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These protests are nothing more than wealthy entitled thugs in support of broke thugs.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Hey, let's keep this on topic. Trump was wrong on the NFL comments. He just created more division with his comments. If anyone watched games today, they saw hundreds and hundreds of NFL players kneeling for the anthem. This is a total result of 45's comments. And he is responsible for the division. Is this the person we want leading our country?
I agree with you. It was a pocket of players who would kneel, most had little press coverage if they weren't Kappernick. Now that Trump forced the issue with his tweet, we saw entire teams kneel or not even take the field for the anthem. Now someone tell me how it is the football players' fault.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by pnwguy2 View Post
Hey, let's keep this on topic. Trump was wrong on the NFL comments. He just created more division with his comments. If anyone watched games today, they saw hundreds and hundreds of NFL players kneeling for the anthem. This is a total result of 45's comments. And he is responsible for the division. Is this the person we want leading our country?
The division is a result of his glorious victory ... the media is responsible, too.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I agree with you. It was a pocket of players who would kneel, most had little press coverage if they weren't Kappernick. Now that Trump forced the issue with his tweet, we saw entire teams kneel or not even take the field for the anthem. Now someone tell me how it is the football players' fault.
So you're saying the players aren't responsible for their own actions?
 
Old 09-24-2017, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I'm glad I never cared about any of these football players to begin with.
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