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Old 10-12-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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Rush Limbaugh alarmed by Trump's 'dictatorial' behavior toward NFL


I agree with the statement. The man is putting his nose in where it doesn't belong.

.. but most stadiums are PUBLIC PROPERTY, not private. The government does have a say what happens there.

 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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You know something is seriously wrong with Trump's behavior when Rush Limbaugh appears to be a calm voice of reason. What Trump is doing to the NFL and his threats against NBC should shock and frighten any true conservative or libertarian. Do you really want to give the POTUS and US government this type of power? What happens when the next Democrat is elected and they run the government again?

Let the free market sort this out.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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its upside down Day, when I agree with Rush


Rush Limbaugh alarmed by Trump's 'dictatorial' behavior toward NFL


Now let the trump supporters trash rush in 3,2 1....
He's just being consistent. Conservatives are not supporting what Trump is doing, anymore than we approved of this type of federal government coercion by Obama, Bush, Clinton or the Reagan admins.

But isn't this abuse of power exactly the thing that libs should expect when they seek to heap more and more power and authority onto the federal government. You create a monster, then whine when it turns on you.

The NFL never should have been given tax exempt status in the first place. The feds bent the rules with special treatment to give them the status, and Trump appears to be doing the same thing to suggest taking the tax status away.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Trump can't help himself. If asked he should have simply said "I think it is wrong not to stand for our anthem but it is their right not to" some kind of canned response like that would have sufficed but instead he choose to pick a fight and perpetuate the idea that the players are kneeling against America.

This reminds me of the time when Obama put his foot in it when he said Treyvon Martin could have been his son. He put the Feds into what should have been a local matter and really brought national attention to race issues that eventually gave us BLM and the so called peaceful protests that seem to always break down into riots.

Obama was wrong and Trump is wrong to stir the pot.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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.. but most stadiums are PUBLIC PROPERTY, not private. The government does have a say what happens there.
If they are owned by the Federal government, you might have an arguable point.

If not, then it means nothing.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You know something is seriously wrong with Trump's behavior when Rush Limbaugh appears to be a calm voice of reason.
Trump was never a Constitutional conservative, and every conservative expected to bump heads with him. Trump was a Democrat for decades, he's has always had a penchant for believing that big government solutions are the answer.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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Trump was never a Constitutional conservative, and every conservative expected to bump heads with him. Trump was a Democrat for decades, he's has always had a penchant for believing that big government solutions are the answer.
What exactly did he do that qualifies for big government in this case? Voicing an opinion? Did he force anyone to do anything with the power of a federal agency? No, he stated things that millions are thinking. Let me tell you something. Constitutional Conservatives are a joke. They all claim to be one to get elected and they turn out NOT to be one and the voters are dumb enough to fall for this time and time again. The other issue with the CC voters is that they are purists and will cut their noses to spite their face, they keep baking losing candidates or flip flop liars and don't learn. Until the CC crowd learns to fight fire with fire and stop being so lame, they will continue to lose and shrink as a group. They are way too weak to win in todays political games.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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Trump was never a Constitutional conservative, and every conservative expected to bump heads with him. Trump was a Democrat for decades, he's has always had a penchant for believing that big government solutions are the answer.
His penchant has always been to make money off of government.

The bigger a public budget, the better for him and his cronies. He is not by nature a problem solver, he is an opportunist.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Trump can't help himself. If asked he should have simply said "I think it is wrong not to stand for our anthem but it is their right not to" some kind of canned response like that would have sufficed but instead he choose to pick a fight and perpetuate the idea that the players are kneeling against America.

This reminds me of the time when Obama put his foot in it when he said Treyvon Martin could have been his son. He put the Feds into what should have been a local matter and really brought national attention to race issues that eventually gave us BLM and the so called peaceful protests that seem to always break down into riots.

Obama was wrong and Trump is wrong to stir the pot.
I agree with both. Obama should not have spoken about Trayvon if at all - but at least until the case was over.


Trump should not be trying to further divide this nation. Approval or disapproval of kneeling falls largely among racial lines. But Trump, of course, knows this.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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So he voiced an opinion. So what. I'm glad he did, it seemed to force Goodell to do the right thing.
Forced patriotism is completely un-American. It's frightening this has to be said at all.
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