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Old 10-13-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: The 719
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I have a simpler solution.

Vote with your feet and your wallet.

 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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So forced patriotism is your solution. I thought Conservatives loved the constitution?
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Brusssels
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How about a national program to improve police professionalism, reduce unnecessary use of force, and build trust again between the people and the police who protect them.

That is what this whole thing is about anyway.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by StuartGotts View Post
1. Any player who wishes to remain in the locker room during the playing of the National Anthem, as a form of protest, or any other reason, is welcome to do so.
For the entire game.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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So forced patriotism is your solution. I thought Conservatives loved the constitution?
What do his suggestions have to do with government?

NOTHING.


It's the mark of a liberal that they feel if government doesn't do something, nobody will do it. Government is the entire world to such people.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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What do his suggestions have to do with government?

NOTHING.


It's the mark of a liberal that they feel if government doesn't do something, nobody will do it. Government is the entire world to such people.
You are the one bringing the government into this, not me. I just totally disagree with forced patriotism. We are not NK.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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You are the one bringing the government into this, not me. I just totally disagree with forced patriotism. We are not NK.
Forced by whom? Nobody is passing a law to force patriotism.

Private business can set their own rules.

You don't seem to know what the freedom of speech is.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Here is my solution:

1. Any player who wishes to remain in the locker room during the playing of the National Anthem, as a form of protest, or any other reason, is welcome to do so.

2. Any player who chooses to be on the field, ice, court, bench during the playing of the National Anthem will be required to stand.

3. Violation of these rules will result in a team penalty.

So, feel free to protest but do not expect paying customers, teams and sponsors to subsidize you.

Your cause on your time and your dime.
I am ok with this as long as the team owner is ok with it. They have a right to protest, even though I do not support them or thier cause. They do not however have a right to disrupt the game or interfere with others enjoyment of the game or with thier patriotism. Until the public disrespect stops I will watch no more football.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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For there to be a "solution" there needs to be a problem. So far I have yet to see a good argument about how a stranger kneeling during the national anthem causes actual harm.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NC
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Forced by whom? Nobody is passing a law to force patriotism.

Private business can set their own rules.

You don't seem to know what the freedom of speech is.
Can you name a private business who has players that are on the field, ice, court and all the places OP mentioned? I can't.

It sounds a lot like what our PRESIDENT is suggesting. While we may all become ill at the thought, he is Government. Forced Patriotism is not a good idea.

And why would OP encourage players to disrespect our anthem by staying in the locker room? Seems a lot better that they come out, show their respect by standing or taking a knee in SUPPORT of all that the Anthem is supposed to stand for. At least that's the way that the veteran who advised Kaepernick to go with the knee felt.

Veteran felt that sitting was not respectful. I agree. He felt that taking a knee showed proper respect, and after he engaged in discussion, got a better feeling for the REAL reasons for the protest. Not the ones your lyar in chief wants you to believe to fit his totalitarian agenda...
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