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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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You are stating the issue incorrectly. It is a common practice to fire employees if the employees engage in or comment an act that is inappropriate for the position or company or places the company in a bad light. We see this every day. In the case of the NFL players they are employed to play football. They decide to engage in an action not only during their employment but clearly during the Flag and National Anthem, Clearly they should be fired based on established employment law. Yes they can protest on their off time.

The NFL is not common practice. In common practice employees are easily replaced with equal talent. Certainly not the case with the NFL.

 
Old 10-18-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The NFL is not common practice. In common practice employees are easily replaced with equal talent. Certainly not the case with the NFL.
Especially for Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys. He has kept drug felons, people who killed another in a DUI car crash, alleged rapists and even signed a convicted wife beater that was appealing his sentence. Now he is looking to fire kneelers? He isn't the only one, but he has a good host of errors in judgement when it comes to mistakes.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by sware2cod View Post
Trump was wrong in his premature tweet last week when he said something about the NFL being against kneeling during the National Anthem. I don't have the exact tweet, but he jumped the gun.
He wasn't wrong, that's what the NFL was going to do. He tweeted it to poke at the issue and the NFL got a lot of heat for it and they reversed course, Trump affected the decision here, and he comes out the big winner for calling out the league which now has no backbone in terms of representing America anymore
 
Old 10-18-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
If this is a "workplace conduct issue", why is the POTUS getting involved?

Didn't he say at one of his political rallies:

"Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b---- off the field right now. Out. He's fired. He's fired!"

He has COMMENTED. He is not getting involved from a government perspective. What government actions has he done?
 
Old 10-18-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
I'm surprised you're more up in arms about a bunch of strangers silently abstaining from a show of faux nationalism than the government pissing away your tax dollars on getting the league to put on the show in the first instance.
It's a private business. The government is ADVERTISING to get volunteers for the Armed Forces. Would you rather we go back to the DRAFT??? One of the very few things the Federal Government can legally do is national defense.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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Trump is using the NFL's subsidized patriotism to appease much of his fan base, who are Veterans. He probably knows that it should not be tax subsided like it has been. It is smoke and mirrors. Just as Kapernick is using the Anthem as a questionable tactic in defending social justice issues which have no place in a sports venue. Who is more right or wrong is totally a matter of opinion.

Veterans who serve the country honorably for at least four years and/or have fought in battles or war do deserve to be supported by the govt. Using the NFL to as a bully pulpit for to undermine freedom of speech and personal choices regarding a patriotically dubious anthem for a crony capitalist sports league is not the way to handle it.

The govt should not be involved politically in the NFL in any way , nor should taxpayers have to subsidize their stadiums in any way. Wall St. subsidizes them enough.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Trump is using the NFL's subsidized patriotism to appease much of his fan base, who are Veterans. He probably knows that it should not be tax subsided like it has been. It is smoke and mirrors. Just as Kapernick is using the Anthem as a questionable tactic in defending social justice issues which have no place in a sports venue. Who is more right or wrong is totally a matter of opinion.

Veterans who serve the country honorably for at least four years and/or have fought in battles or war do deserve to be supported by the govt. Using the NFL to as a bully pulpit for to undermine freedom of speech and personal choices regarding a patriotically dubious anthem is not the way to handle it.
You have no idea what you're talking about

There is 0 federal tax subsidy for any NFL team whatsoever
 
Old 10-18-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post

Despite all the posts about how offended the racist, pardon me patriotic, contingency are, and how they all are going to turn off their TVs, seems the owners believe that the rest of their audience actually will turn off football if they bench a bunch of players.

But this is only round one. We'll have to see how it goes.
Provocative Progressive playing that Race Card.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Originally Posted by wilful
....They all respect the flag and the anthem regardless of how people like Trump and other haters are trying to spin this. Hats off to the owners for recognizing that fact.
How exactly are the weenie kneeling dudes respecting the Flag and the Anthem?
 
Old 10-18-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Plantation mentality. What a moron.
Provocative Progressive playing that Race Card.


Yawn....no more russia, russia, russia....race must be the talking point of the week - came right from the progressive leadership & popping up in LOTS of posts today.
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