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Old 07-28-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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Here's some fact checking about MS-13 and recent US deportation numbers of gang members.

More MS-13 Gang Nonsense - FactCheck.org
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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MS-13 ain't even the most dangerous gang in the city where it was born, Los Angeles.

It's good to crack down on them but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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MS-13 ain't even the most dangerous gang in the city where it was born, Los Angeles.
Too much competition from other gangs maybe so they've spread out across the country.

Maybe they should sue for defamation.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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I live near the area in question.

MS13 is a real problem..we are not used to gangs on Long Island, so saying they aren't the worst problem in LA doesn't really make me say "Oh, I guess it ain't a problem then". Your city is about 50% gang infested war zone..I don't want to live like that.

Anyway, the real issue is Trump joking about police brutality and watching cops laugh about it. This is not a bar room back slapping session, it's the President of the United States speaking to one of the most highly paid..and therefore supposedly professional police forces in the country..and they're grab a**ing around about roughing up suspects. Does anyone with a mentality beyond that of a 15 year old think this is actually funny for the "leader of the free world" to do? This clown make life seem more and more surreal every day.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Listen up !!!The President is going to be speaking today about MS13 that Obama let in and Trump is kicking out.



MS13 originated in Los Angeles in the 1980s, WHY should we believe a thread that starts with the BS that Obama let them in? Seems like nothing but more baseless hyperbole from TrumpLandia.
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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Listen up !!!The President is going to be speaking today about MS13 that Obama let in and Trump is kicking out.

The President will be in NYC today speaking about how he is keeping Americans safe. Very refreshing after the last 8 years of a clown who didn't give a poop about America or its people.

Should be starting anytime. Get your refreshments and lets watch the great orator in action.
The snack bar will be close after he starts his speech.
Support the President as he keeps the nation safe.

Wasn't aware that they asked if you are a gang member before you were deported- do they keep actual statistics of who is in what gang? Do we really know how many MS13 members were deported?
How is he keeping Americans safe if most of these gang members are citizens? They would have to be since some posters are saying that the issues involving this particular gang go back for 20 years or more.
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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what ?????????????
MS-13 was a crew of Salvadorian kids who skated and listened to metal. They got deported and militarized, then cane back to LA with a vengeance.
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:35 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Listen up !!!The President is going to be speaking today about MS13 that Obama let in and Trump is kicking out.

The President will be in NYC today speaking about how he is keeping Americans safe. Very refreshing after the last 8 years of a clown who didn't give a poop about America or its people.

Should be starting anytime. Get your refreshments and lets watch the great orator in action.
The snack bar will be close after he starts his speech.
Support the President as he keeps the nation safe.
MS13 originated in Los Angeles in the 1980s and the gang members are El Salvadoran immigrants. Ronald Reagan was president in the 1980s and Reagan allowed the gang to take hold in America.
Trump's MS-13 Miss - FactCheck.org

And GW Bush was president from 2001-2009 and GW Bush did nothing about MS13.


But it was Bill Clinton that started America's increase in the removal of illegal immigrants like MS13 members.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.232d6f6302ac

And Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any president in American history, pro-immagration groups even call Obama the "Deporter in Chief."
Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News

And even Donald Trumps immigration plan is a close copy of Obama's immigration policies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.232d6f6302ac


Reagan allowed the El Salvadoran immigrant MS13 gang to take hold in America and GW Bush did nothing to stop MS13. Clinton started the large scale removal of illegal immigrants and Obama deported more immigrants than any president in American history. How is Obama the president responsible for MS13? (Reagan, Bush, and republicans are more responsible for MS13 than Obama.)


And while you illogically and falsely attack Obama for MS13 and then praise Trump, you fail to mention that Trumps MS13 policies could actually make MS13 stronger and increase MS13 violence.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...crime-violence
MS-13 gang members: Trump makes MS-13 gang stronger - CNN.com

Last edited by chad3; 07-28-2017 at 04:02 PM..
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Wasn't aware that they asked if you are a gang member before you were deported- do they keep actual statistics of who is in what gang? Do we really know how many MS13 members were deported?
How is he keeping Americans safe if most of these gang members are citizens? They would have to be since some posters are saying that the issues involving this particular gang go back for 20 years or more.
Yes there is a gang data base . It's organized crime. And many with similar tats are labeled associates not members ...
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Jeff Sessions went to El Salvador where this gang originated to try to 'cut off the roots' by talking to that country's leaders about how we can support each others efforts to eliminate this gang. Hitting it from several angles. Don't know why any Loonies wouldn't support this other than to be anti Trump for everything, which is just childish.
It's become stronger in Honduras. MS13 is around the world .
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