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Old 07-29-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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I make my own biodiesel.

No sales tax where I live.

I pay very little property tax because it's listed as a ranch and I runabout 50 cows.

No fees on my internet as its exempt due to the rural area where I live. I am on a well. I hear my home by wood I cut myself. My power comes from wind and solar, tax credits.
The Ted Kaczynski model self-reliant man.

And you don't have to yell at kids to stay off your lawn, because no one lives close enough to bother you.

Sort of sounds like you were born 200 years too late, because you fit the 18th Century Jeffersonian model calling for a minimalist central government that provides for maybe a constable for law enforcement with little or nothing else. The Jeffersonians were the ones fighting against what they called "internal improvements" which was really anything more than the most rudimentary infrastructure. They famously opposed funding of the Erie Canal until New York finally paid for it all themselves, although it benefited the country as a whole by opening up the Northwest for settlement and development.

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Old 07-29-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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The oath to uphold the laws means absolutely nothing to him.

Get rid of him!
I don't believe he is required to fund this.

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Old 07-29-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Your link says :

" President Trump on Saturday threatened to end key payments to insurance companies made under Obamacare if a repeal and replace bill is not passed.

The House is on recess and not due back until 9/5.

There's also the pesky matter of the debt ceiling. Mnuchin has repeatedly asked Congress to deal with it before their Summer recess.

Did not happen.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Your link says :

" President Trump on Saturday threatened to end key payments to insurance companies made under Obamacare if a repeal and replace bill is not passed.

The House is on recess and not due back until 9/5.

There's also the pesky matter of the debt ceiling. Mnuchin has repeatedly asked Congress to deal with it before their Summer recess.

Did not happen.
I think it's time to move to Taxes and the budget. This farce is wasting too much tax money and trump would rather be spending 20 million taxpayer money per trip again to Mar Lago.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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EVERY other developed nation has single payer healthcare. HOW exactly are we unable to do so?

Quit whining with this sort of nonsense, it doesnt pass the sniff test.
^ Misinformation.

The rest of the developed world has Universal Healthcare and no two countries do it the same way. Some rely on a public Single Payer model. Some rely entirely on private insurance payer. Most are a mixed bag. Some require employers to pay for a part of it and some countries do not.

What they have in common is a mandate, no age or medical condition exclusion and subsidies for low/no income earners. How they subsidize is a variable.


Universal Healthcare is living legislation that is amended each year and periodically reformed.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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^ Misinformation.

The rest of the developed world has Universal Healthcare and no two countries do it the same way. Some rely on a public Single Payer model. Some rely entirely on private insurance payer. Most are a mixed bag. Some require employers to pay for a part of it and some countries do not.

What they have in common is a mandate, no age or medical condition exclusion and subsidies for low/no income earners. How they subsidize is a variable.


Universal Healthcare is living legislation that is amended each year and periodically reformed.
HMMMM. This was Pre-Obamacare numbers.


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Old 07-29-2017, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Not paying insurance companies has no impact on the majority of insured people because the majority of people are not in the Individual Plan Market.

It could have an impact on that portion of the Individual Plan market that is subsidized.No clue if there are provisions for late payments. Sounds like an intentional effort to compel the failure of this relatively small segment of the insurance market, albeit one that insures millions of people.

It would not bode well for Trump or Congress.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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If all those other nations are so great, why don't you just move to one of them?
I did! And was never happier. And in advance response to the inevitable " good riddance" and " no loss" happy horsechit from the "patriots" here- I actually earned my way- became as educated as much as possible; am a law-abiding citizen who enlisted to serve America. But yeah no loss
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Hardly surprising. I've said some threads ago that if Republicans can't get their **** together on a new healthcare bill, Trump's team will find ways to cripple the existing system to the point where it brings the nation to its knees and a new healthcare bill is able to be forced through. And that new thing will basically feature decimated Medicaid, double digit uninsured, and wider latitude for insurers to screw policyholders.

I see nothing to be optimistic about. One way or another, the seige will prevail, Obamacare will end, and a replacement will come that makes the state of healthcare FAR WORSE for the nation. It is inevitable that our living standard in health measures - already trailing the Western world - will continue to decline further.

Conservatives have never had and will never have good ideas on healthcare reform because they don't understand the market.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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The funny thing about him doing this, is he is unwittingly admitting that Obamacare (the ACA) will work fine unless he actively sabotages it.

Thought he was all about respecting the law?
Actually all he has to do now is sit back and do nothing. That will prove the ACA is a failure. The insurance company bailouts (or bribes, depending on your view) appear to have expired. There is no provision to fund them (legally).
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