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Old 07-31-2017, 11:06 PM
 
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3 Things Trump Is Already Doing to ‘Let Obamacare Implode’


It doesn't need Trump's help it is imploding all on it's own. Insurance companies have been dropping out before Trump was elected but then that is what Obama wants---single payer----it was meant to implode all along.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:14 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The ACA is a bad law. Let it fail. We need single payer.
Obamacare is like that car that is a lemon. The cost to keep it going far exceeds its value. Cut your loses and Replace it.
The bold is not true at all.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:25 PM
 
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I would have also added that his inability to rule on the subsidies is helping the demise. The ACA certainly has problems but Trumps actions are certainly helping it along.




Nice try NYT's, but Obamacare was doomed from the start, because of all the costs it imposes on those already insured.
Additionally it restricts plans many had and liked, and peoples doctors started losing patients as well. Deductibles went way up as well.
The regular system was much better for most people before Obamacare came along. We need to get back to where we were, then make some improvements.
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Old 08-01-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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He is deliberately sabotaging a government program that helps tens of millions of America. It is reprehensible.
That is trump ,to a Tee!
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Old 08-01-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Kaiser reported that the average premium doubled between 2000-2010, before the ACA.

Individual experiences are highly variable.

Both sides of the issue have relied on anecdotal evidence to support their positions.

I know many self -employed professional people with pre-existing conditions who are grateful for the opportunity to be able to buy insurance and pay for it. They do not qualify for subsidies. That, of course, does not mean it has been a God -send for everyone.

Hardly a week has gone by without a post bursting with misinformation. My personal favorites include the posts that speak of double digit deductions.Just baloney.
Yep, plenty of misinformation from the pro Obamacare side of the isle. The pre-existing condition part was a needed reform there's no logical argument to refute that. Other than that? Can't really think of anything good.
If Obamacare is so great then drop the mandate and let's see how great people really think it is. Let's see how loud the sucking sound gets as people run for the exits.

My guess is all those without subsidies will flee and the insurance companies will figure out policies to serve them just like they did pre-forced enrollment.
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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Great rundown on how Trump is sabotaging ACA.

http://bridgeproject.com/app/uploads...CA-8.10.17.pdf
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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"We will always enforce our laws"(that he likes while actively sabotaging ones he doesn't).

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Old 08-10-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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The bold is not true at all.
The ACA is a lemon. For what it costs we can have something far better.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Because the law is a lemon. I don't want it fixed either. I want it replaced with a single payer system similar to what Australia has. Everyone is covered and everyone contributes. No hidden costs, very fair and very effective.
This I can agree on. Good post.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Houston
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3 Things Trump Is Already Doing to ‘Let Obamacare Implode’


It doesn't need Trump's help it is imploding all on it's own. Insurance companies have been dropping out before Trump was elected but then that is what Obama wants---single payer----it was meant to implode all along.
Talk is that's the next step...single payer. Can't come soon enough.
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