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Old 08-02-2017, 10:59 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
Leftists famously claim whenever the argument of illegal immigration comes up that "we are an nation of immigrants," and they use that argument to justify their support for unlimited immigration. Anybody should be allowed to come here that wants to.

Where dose this notion that "we are a nation of immigrants" come from? In fact, we have always limited immigration to people who could directly benefit our country. We have always made it a requirement that they learn English, and assimilate into our culture, and that's what most immigrants in the past wanted to do. They wanted to become Americans. That isn't true anymore. Why should we allow people who are not interested in becoming Americans into our country?

[This was supposed to by posted under Immigration]
It's in their official playbook on building their voter base.

 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Our ancestors stayed here because they were better, and smarter than the violent, and brutal STONE AGE inhabitants that came here from Asia.
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: London
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Because for the most part, it's true. How many of you had all 4 grandparents born here? Very, very few, I'd imagine.
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Uh. Ever been to a Chinatown? Or Little Italy? Or Koreantown? Or any other ethnic enclave in any city?
Tourist attractions like Busch Gardens. At the end of the day they go home and speak American.
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Because for the most part, it's true. How many of you had all 4 grandparents born here? Very, very few, I'd imagine.
1840 here.
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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Tourist attractions like Busch Gardens. At the end of the day they go home and speak American.


LOL. So no, you've never been to a major city with ethnic enclaves before?
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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No, we are not. What our ancestors did is no basis to call American born natives, immigrants. We are mostly a nation of U.S. citizens today. Our native born citizen population way outnumbers our immigrant one. Time to shed that stupid label and just be ourselves.
As I said to another poster, the people who say we are a nation of immigrants know this already. You thinking this disproves them suggests that you don't understand their argument.

Is this really how partisan we've become? The idea of simply agreeing with a Democrat on something is so disgusting that we must now not even consider what they're saying in the context in which they are saying it? And you can happily replace Democrat with Republican; same thing.

We are a nation of immigrants. This is an undeniable fact. It does not mean the majority of Americans are presently immigrants or even had their family recently immigrate. Once more, as I said in the other post I made to you (which you ignored; again, the idea of agreeing is worse than attempting to understand), you know this but choose to pretend you don't so that you can play party politics.
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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We were never a nation of continuous globalized immigration until codified in Immigration law in 1965 onward. Times have changed and immigrants have changed. The 1965 immigration act revisions was the exact opposite of what this country needed with the coming globalization and increasing automation.

Immigration into any nation shouldn't be massive, continuous demographic and culturally changing. That borderlines on a crime against the nation's people. Immigration needs to be reduced and demographic restoring. Let's roll back to national origins and immigration law more similar to pre-1965. We'll still be a "nation of immigrants" but in a way it's been for 300 plus years
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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As I said to another poster, the people who say we are a nation of immigrants know this already. You thinking this disproves them suggests that you don't understand their argument.

Is this really how partisan we've become? The idea of simply agreeing with a Democrat on something is so disgusting that we must now not even consider what they're saying in the context in which they are saying it? And you can happily replace Democrat with Republican; same thing.

We are a nation of immigrants. This is an undeniable fact. It does not mean the majority of Americans are presently immigrants or even had their family recently immigrate. Once more, as I said in the other post I made to you (which you ignored; again, the idea of agreeing is worse than attempting to understand), you know this but choose to pretend you don't so that you can play party politics.

All civilizations are made up of immigrants. Tell us something we didn't know.

In America, like most legitimate nations, the majority gets to make the rules on who comes here. You didn't know this?
 
Old 08-02-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Definitions of Immigrant:


Webster

Definition of [SIZE=5]immigrant[/SIZE]
  1. : one that immigrates: such asa : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence


Dictionary.com

noun
1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.


So a native born person is NOT an immigrant. We are NOT a nation of immigrants. We are largely a nation of ANCESTORS of immigrants. Big difference.
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